SecretAsianMan Posted March 26, 2014 New stretch goal for Frog Fractions 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Professor Video Games Posted March 27, 2014 Keep in mind that both King and Zynga own much of their gross success to Facebook in the first place, so Facebook seems to be the most gross to me just by potential of grossness it fosters in other companies. I dunno, that's like saying it's Microsoft's fault when an xbox game is garbage. I think the thing that keeps me from jumping on the hate bandwagon just yet is that Facebook is too young to have a history of shitting on its acquisitions. But then again, everyone's gotta start somewhere! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cyborg771 Posted March 27, 2014 Anyone who thought they were making the Oculus for games did so because they trotted out a bunch of gaming tech titans like Carmack and Newell in their pitch video. They had gaming written all over their pitch and the vast, vast majority of their support was coming from the gaming community. I don't think it's a stretch for that community to feel a little duped. Maybe we were naive, but the backlash is still their problem to deal with. If they meant for the Oculus to be used for a lot of non-gaming applications, they did a really shitty job of communicating that. Well that's because that was the market on Kickstarter. They probably don't show the military guys Doom 3 either. One piece of hardware can have many different use cases. As they've said before, the primary commercial market is still games because they are the industry best positioned to be creating immersive 3D worlds to explore. Honestly I'm not even convinced that games, at least the kinds of games we often play now, are a good fit for the rift. Movement, situational awareness, fidelity, and a bunch of other little things need to be sorted out first. I'm one of those unlucky folks who gets pretty bad motion sickness while using the device anyways so until that's unequivocally fixed I can't see the rift being used for extended periods. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Merus Posted March 27, 2014 It's easier for me, now, to speculate about ways in which this could work out. Facebook's core product is on the way out, and they know it; they've been spending money to ensure that they can use that sweet, sweet Facebook money to pivot into mobile. They are clearly not planning on being the Facebook company forever. So what if we're seeing a company that's planning on pivoting when they get something that's worth growing? What if Facebook recognises that Oculus' ties to developers are stronger than the parent company's, and on VR let them call the shots? What if Oculus bought out Facebook and not the other way around? I think it's probably healthy to burst the hype bubble on the Rift. I've tried DK2, it's still not that great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
clyde Posted March 27, 2014 I haven't tried it yet, so my imagination fills the blanks generously. I'm expecting to be able to wander something like Florence in Assassin's Creed 2 and pretend I'm there and be afraid to jump off buildings because it's so real. Talk me down, what is lacking about it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Merus Posted March 27, 2014 It doesn't do eye tracking particularly well; you feel like you've got a screen strapped to your face, which is basically what it is. They kept getting me to avoid tilting too much (because I wanted to look around a corner); it actually worked, but I guess it also breaks the illusion pretty quickly when it doesn't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SecretAsianMan Posted March 28, 2014 Michael Abrash, formerly of Valve, joins Oculus as Chief Scientist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben X Posted March 28, 2014 Google Glass + Oculus Rift = Strange Days? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonCole Posted March 28, 2014 I dunno, that's like saying it's Microsoft's fault when an xbox game is garbage. I think the thing that keeps me from jumping on the hate bandwagon just yet is that Facebook is too young to have a history of shitting on its acquisitions. But then again, everyone's gotta start somewhere! Well, they do have a history of shitting on users. It's part of the reason that I just don't have a good feeling about this at all, because I have tons of negative feelings towards Facebook in how they treat me as a user, so even if they have no particularly rich history of having their way with companies they acquire I still don't trust them based on my personal experience. It's a bit of an emotional assessment, but not every opinion I have has to be wholly rational. Also, if you asked me how I feel about Microsoft enabling Activision/Call of Duty rot by buying exclusivity and encouraging the sales of that sub-par franchise of late through their buckets of advertising money, I wouldn't have a particularly positive spin. So, Facebook endorsing shitty gaming trends by putting those games front and center certainly does earn them some contempt from me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Architecture Posted March 29, 2014 Abrash leaving Valve for Oculus is actually an encouraging sign. Regardless of how it all shakes out, this has been one ridiculous week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sclpls Posted March 31, 2014 Okay, now I feel bad for the Oculus crew. http://www.pcgamesn.com/palmer-luckey-did-not-expect-be-getting-so-many-death-threats-and-harassing-phone-calls-over-facebook-deal Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BigJKO Posted March 31, 2014 Ugh.. That is the worst. Be sour about the deal if you want to, complain about it on twitter, whatever.. But god damn death threats? Harassing phone calls? Christ.. I guess this shouldn't surprise me coming from a community that goes to the death threat/harassing well for a simple gun tweak patch for a video game.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sclpls Posted March 31, 2014 Seriously! I hate that my reaction as soon as I saw that article was, "of course that happened!" Not cool Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gormongous Posted March 31, 2014 Seriously! I hate that my reaction as soon as I saw that article was, "of course that happened!" Not cool Someone does something you don't like on the internet? Tell them how you wish they were dead, possibly also how you wish to make them dead. This is our culture right now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dewar Posted April 4, 2014 I'm kind warming up to the idea of Occulus and Facebook being together. I figure the chance that Occulus, standing on its own, running out of money and folding is probably about equal to the chance of Facebook stepping in and messing things up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golden Calf Posted April 11, 2014 really immersive nature documentaries Called it. But seriously this seems awesome to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tundra Posted April 12, 2014 Still hope that other Augmented Tech from valve gets made somehow as my housemates find it funny making me jump when I'm fully immersed. But also as i could walk around London and for instance it could render London circa 1888 or 1666 on top. Maybe a sort of adventure game? Speak to a rendered NPC who's not there... Achievement unlocked: "Someone kindly get a straight jacket for this fine gentleman" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bjorn Posted April 25, 2014 Moral of the story: Never trust a man with a mullet in a Russian mall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deleted user Posted April 28, 2014 Has anyone tried combining photometry and a HMD? I feel like that would do something crazy to your sense of presence if the virtual world is actually 1:1 with the real world, with a few tweaks here and there. Also get some eye tracking in there to put shadowy figures in places you're not directly staring at. Peripheral vision and it's horrible processing and visual limitations, hasn't really been played with in games/truck simulators. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nachimir Posted May 5, 2014 Almost put this in the Big Dog thread because it a teeny bit Ghost In The Shell: http://www.tu.no/tutv/forsvar/2014/05/05/norwegian-army-driving-armoured-vehicle-using-oculus-rift Even the DK1 is much better than other POV goggles out there. I really don't think it'll be long until more video based applications and hardware pop up around it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prettyunsmart Posted May 15, 2014 So that happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neonrev Posted May 16, 2014 So I don't know basically anything about the thing I just watched, but what does the thing in the corner that says "Enable Relief" do? Is that just a part of the OR itself, or is it a software thing, and what does it actually do? I need relief from my headache now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golden Calf Posted May 20, 2014 An exciting development Share this post Link to post Share on other sites