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Twin Peaks Rewatch 37: The Return, Part 3

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16 minutes ago, fellintooblivion said:

 

This is my problem with the show so far, it feels exactly like a Lynch movie and I don't particularly like Lynch movies.

 

Especially Inland Empire which this seems to be following the same formula for.

 

Mark Frost's influence is nowhere to be seen on this show.

 

Diff'rent strokes. This Lynch-fueled version of TP is better than I what expected to come from this revival. There's still quite a bit of show left, however.

 

Random, but as soon as Coopvegas started pulling slot machine levers I kept waiting for a connection to the eyeless woman who pulled one earlier in the episode.

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6 hours ago, fellintooblivion said:

 

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Bobby says how his father died in episode 4. If the fire was hot enough to turn his bones to ash (the only way Cooper could have conceivably taken his body would be to explain away the absence of it) it would have done the same for his skull and I doubt they would have considered Brigg's death a closed case if they found no remains. Of course I have no idea what Bobby is referring to when he says his dad died in the fire at his "station".

 

Spoilers for episode 4, read if you've seen it.

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I dunno. His job is really secret

 A fire could leave a lack of evidence and Briggs has disappeared in a puff of smoke before. When Bobby says it though it makes it sound like the fire was a really long time ago though. Dunno, wild speculation.

 

I think that some speculation is fine but if you start trying to look for meaning in everything all you're gonna be doing when you  watch the show is looking for clues and not being absorbed. At least fir me. 

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Just realised I posted my original post about 

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Garland Briggs

In the wrong thread. Sorry!

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On 2017-5-30 at 6:42 PM, awesomeocelot said:

I'm a little more convinced that "my mother" the American Girl is so worried about is the same monster in the glass box trying to capture Agent Cooper and turn him into the gold bead which ended up being Dogies fate. 
Anyone else getting this impression? 
-Laura 

 

I totally missed the bead thingy even having watched the sequence twice. The mother-theory makes a lot of sense, although I'm still baffled by the whole thing and don't quite know what to think. The mouth-face of the arm and the arm-doppelganger is quite similar to the face of the glass box monster. Or perhaps it's the weird Dougie-meat-blob.

 

Upon rewatching the glass box sequences what was strange was that as Good Coop initially falls from the red room, he falls on top of the glass box outside the building, then sinks in. Would Good Coop have made the transition safely, if he hadn't been caught by the glass box? If so, was the intent of the glass box to capture things moving from Lodge-realm to Earth? Or it could just be a really boring tv that explodes.

 

Not that it really matters, I suspect, and I wouldn't be too surprised if it's never resolved.

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15 minutes ago, unimural said:

Upon rewatching the glass box sequences what was strange was that as Good Coop initially falls from the red room, he falls on top of the glass box outside the building, then sinks in. Would Good Coop have made the transition safely, if he hadn't been caught by the glass box? If so, was the intent of the glass box to capture things moving from Lodge-realm to Earth? Or it could just be a really boring tv that explodes.

 

Not that it really matters, I suspect, and I wouldn't be too surprised if it's never resolved.


It would safe to assume that the NYC glass-box was designed to break the fall and transition beings from the outside in. If you remember when Coop leaves the box and is falling through space and lands outside of the purple/space room, he has to open the window to let himself in. Similar set ups for sure. 

Even if it never gets resolved I still really enjoy theorizing different scenarios, that's half the fun. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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On 2017-5-30 at 9:53 PM, ddennism said:

 


It seems like most people are interpreting Mr. Jackpots as a temporarily mentally-impaired continuation of Good Dale Cooper. When did this impairment happen? We briefly see the coherent, original Good Dale Cooper in few scenes prior to the chaotic rift in the Red Room, so its not like it happened as a consequence of 25 years of Red Rooming it.

 

 

Nah man, I don't think you can apply any logic or reason to the red Room. Just because he says a few words in there doesn't mean he's all there. What even is it! Don't think that means anything. I like the idea he's fucked from sitting there for 25 years or however long 25 years feels in there

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Just about doppelgängers. 

 

My read was always that people have doppelgängers in the lodge, specifically Leland and Coop. Leland himself, however, is the one partnered with Bob because he's a willing participant. Remember how Lelands doppelgänger "did not kill any body"? 

 

Cooper would not be willing, thus Bob had to partner with the doppelcoop to take over a physical form.

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On May 27, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Bjorn said:


 

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Edited to add.  I just looked up a wiki page on the ring, it shows up in the original show more than I remembered and there's all sorts of stuff about it in the books apparently.

 

 

The ring you were reading about from the show and books was probably Cooper's gold ring that the giant takes in season 2. The green ring that Dougie wears (with a modified Owl Cave insignia on it) was invented just for the movie. Although it is mentioned in Mark Frost's recent book.

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Finally watched parts 3 and 4, and holy smokes I'm enjoying it. A couple of things I wanted to shout out in this episode:

 

When Dale shuffles into the casino, there's a tiny, easy-to-miss moment where Coop is walking away from the camera and the security guard, and the guard shouts at him. The way Cooper flinches in response is just heartbreaking to me. Kyle MacLachlan is just, oh my god. Every moment he's on screen as any of these characters is just fire. I'm constantly floored.

 

The other thing is just that the floating metal space pod scene felt like a surreal 90s CD-ROM graphic adventure to me. 

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14 hours ago, Salacious Snake said:

The other thing is just that the floating metal space pod scene felt like a surreal 90s CD-ROM graphic adventure to me. 

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On ‎5‎/‎23‎/‎2017 at 8:55 AM, Mington said:

The team America barf scene was the fucking best!

 

also, dude, just pull the car over!

 

"Heeeeellllllllllloooooooo"

 

i now know what I'll be shouting if I ever see Kyle MacLachlan IRL

 

i got to say this episode made me squeal on about 6 different occasions. Love. It. 

 

Way after you posted this, but I had that thought that maybe he was driving like a maniac so that, if his plan failed, real coop would appear in a crashing car and maybe die?

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6 hours ago, Dewar said:

 

Way after you posted this, but I had that thought that maybe he was driving like a maniac so that, if his plan failed, real coop would appear in a crashing car and maybe die?

 

I think evilcoop is just a dingbat

 

unless he wanted to get arrested so he'd meet Gordon.... nah probably not 

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Random observations as we approach the final episodes:

 

This moment's observation is just a humorous one I missed before, or forgot, at the end of part 3:

Cole gets the call reference Cooper (Dark Coop) in South Dakota.

 

Gordon (to Albert): Albert, we're headed for the Black Hills of South Dakota.

Albert: The Black Hills - seriously?

Gordon: As happy as this news makes us Albert, we can't put this on the radio.

Albert: Perfect, I've been dying to see Mt. Rushmore.

Gordon: It's good you want to hurry. We fly at dawn, and Tammy, you're coming with us.

Albert (to Tammy): The absurd mystery of the strange forces of existence.

Tammy: [exasperated look]

Albert: How about a truckload of Valium?

 

Love, love, love the deadpan combination of Albert and Cole.

And the song at the end of this one is the first and my favorite up to Part 14.

Lynch loves the mellow stuff, and not all of it is to my taste except on rainy days,

but I could listen to this one many times (The Cactus Blossoms: Mississippi).

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