Jake

Whoa we're doing a Harry Potter podcast?

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I'm editing this stupid thing this week sorry for the huge delay! get *tinkly John Williams chimes* excited

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Will this be recorded in your wonderful new soundproof conference room at the top of Circus?

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It should be recorded at The Wizarding World Of Harry Potter.

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It should be recorded at The Wizarding World Of Harry Potter.

 

This is a good idea. Have you been there? I went when it was not quite done ("phase 1" or whatever) and it was pretty cool. I do wish they went more hardcore with the universe like the Disney star wars land (everyone in character always, etc.).

 

Also, did I mention I am excited for this podcast? :)

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I haven't, but [brag] I did a couple weeks work on Deathly Hallows' 2nd unit so I got to walk around a lot of the sets and see all the workshops and stuff.

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I have been listening to Idle Thumbs for a long time, I love it. And when I heard that they are going to record a Harry Potter podcast covering all the books and the movies, I became sooo excited. I love the Harry Potter books (not so much the movies though) and so does my family. So I started to tell my family that they should start re-reading the books now, since there are a new podcast coming out soon! And so they did.

 

So... I for one really hopes that this podcast isn't dead... Please?

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If it actually manages to get released, it will be The Podcast That Lived.

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I'm over halfway through the Cursed Child play and it's awful. I hope this 'cast a) happens and sunglasses) covers the extra-novels stuff so I can hear the hosts' opinions on the play.

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We've canceled the Harry cast sorry ;(

Fwiw Olly and I like the play though we recognize its fan ficcy in parts and Sarah didn't like it. I'm not sure it's a story that needed to be told. For some that may be reason enough to dislike it or wish it didn't exist or was different, but there are a lot of character moments and pockets of the world we get to see that I really like (eg: the looks we get at Draco feel new but also very true and revealing about his character. Did we need this story to be told? No definitely not, but I still enjoyed it on the whole).

Also: I suspect the plays great in person. It reads right now like what it is: a script, a story stripped of its descriptions and pacing because those are worked out in person off the page.

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Whaaaat?! Decision reversicus!

 

That's a real shame. Any chance of the unfinished first ep (or whatever you've got) getting bunged up online somewhere? Also, perhaps you could start a mega-thread in the Books board (or on this one, I guess) if you still feel like reading through them and discussing... 

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The play undid a lot of aspects of the Deathly Hallows epilogue that I thought were really successful. The seventh book ends with us discovering that Harry finally got his wish - a family. Through the series, we see him struggle with this immense responsibility and dream about having a normal life where he's not constantly imperiled by dark wizards. He does not want the fame and danger that comes with it. That's why the epilogue is such a good resolution; finally, Harry can be a normal person and raise a family that he was denied. The play undoes that happiness by showing that actually, Harry is kind of a bad father. And maybe someone who went through everything that Harry did realistically wouldn't be a great dad, but it ruins the joy and contentment I felt reading that epilogue.

 

I also was really bothered with how Slytherin was handled, by again undoing what was so well-handled in the epilogue. The series ends and it seems like the distrust of Slytherin is gone, but the play returns to the tired Slytherin = bad excuse that never sat right with me in the books. Finally, I really did not enjoy how much Hermione and Rose were side-lined in the play. Again, that undoes aspects of the book series that made it so successful in my mind. Going from having a prominent and beloved female character to basically no female characters is a huge misstep in the continuation of this series.

 

I'm fully willing to admit that I probably was never going to be 100% onboard with more Harry Potter stories, because I am incredibly suspicious of sequels and infinite storytelling based on nostalgia. But, I gave the play a shot and found it really lacking in these major ways. I'm hoping that Fantastic Beasts will do better. Although, skeptical me is already annoyed that the movie is a trilogy. Everything has to be a franchise these days.

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I agree with all of that. And yeah, it felt incredibly fan-ficcy throughout to me:

 

the kids of the original gang fight the kid of Voldemort! In a plot that exclusively revolves around events from the previous novels!

 

I think anyone reading it should be aware that a) Rowling only has a joint story credit on it, and sunglasses) as Jake says, it probably works much better live where you're enjoying the special effects and immersive atmosphere - the story is easily digestible nostalgia in service of that, and the play shouldn't be considered as HP8.

 

BUT ANYWAY WHAT ABOUT RELEASING ANY EXISTING PODCAST MATERIAL AND/OR DOING A READ-THROUGH THREAD?

 

edit: it just struck me that you used a classic tabloid manoeuvre with the title of this thread: "Whoa, we're doing a Harry Potter podcast?" *reads through article, finds the answer is no*

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oh no, sad to see this axed!

 

I started rereading the series when the podcast was mentioned, and just finished. Was somewhat apprehensive about how it would hold up - especially after the extremely light first novel - but the core of these books is as radiant as I remembered.

 

had no idea there was a new play out, which, judging by the reactions, was for the best. Though it was probably the catalyst for the podcast in the first place?

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Oh no I missed this whole arc! Oh well I'll just add my hp thoughts anyway.

I got the first book as a 12th birthday present in 1999, it felt innocent compared to the other stuff I was reading. YA in the 90s in australia was lots of John Marsden, which was all teens being very gritty and sexy, stories about jail and drugs and teen freedom fighters and daughters of corrupt politicians etc. and here was something really beautiful and optimistic and dreamy. I loved the reveals of the world, the exciting things it suggested -- owl post, the ceiling in the main hall, the talking pictures and moving staircases. Quidditch! It reminded me a little of the scene in A Little Princess when she wakes up to find the room is luxurious. That tradition of magic in british kid's lit.

The later books never felt quite as magical to me as the first, b/c they don't keep exploring new delights.

The third book was still in hardcover when I went to buy the second soon after. I covered both my copies of the first & second book in contact b/c so many people were asking to borrow them.

I also read a portion of the first book in its latin translation when I was 19, which was delightful. The translator had to invent a bunch of compound words to describe new technologies that didn't have ancient roman counterparts. I gave up b/c the translation was a bit beyond my abilities, but now I wonder if I should get it on kindle and keep google translate close and see how I go.

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