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I think I did Feel The Burn but I probably did not Take It To The Max.

Also when I started it up I did not feel compelled to say "the feeling is amazing, you have to try this" while taking off a cardigan.

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So the guy at Penny arcade has been posting this. The two previous posts are also a good read to see what is happening in homes around us, right now.

I guess it makes sense, the marketing is right and the audience is right and, well, the games are right.

Microsoft reckons they sold 1 million in 10 days, it is so weird being on the outside of it all... Again. I understand that the reason that it is so successful is because I don't get the Kinect and I am not supposed but it doesn't stop baffling me.

On the upswing a friend is coming around tomorrow with Donkey Kong Country: Returns and Kirby's Epic Yarn so I might turn into a Wii owner after Sunday. Maybe. Just need a screen that supports Composite in my room.

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Money's been a little tight so I was going to wait to buy Kinect, but get this! I won a free one in that burger king contest! I was so excited I never win anything! So I'm planning on picking up Dance Central and EA Sports Active.

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Money's been a little tight so I was going to wait to buy Kinect, but get this! I won a free one in that burger king contest! I was so excited I never win anything! So I'm planning on picking up Dance Central and EA Sports Active.

Wow, that's awesome. Congratulations!

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I think a Lost Kinect game would be brillo. You'd be running round the jungle getting chased by Smokey and hostiles, brushing soil off hidden hatches, drawing secret symbols and showing them to characters, stuff like that. You'd get a gun occasionally but with only six bullets or whatever. I'd set it in a different time period to the main show, though. You could play

Walt coming back as an adult, with special bird-summoning powers

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Still, if Kinect sells, it'd be kind of miraculous what Microsoft did in just two console generations.

What do you mean by this? I'm not giving you a hard time...I honestly don't quite understand but I'm curious.

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On the upswing a friend is coming around tomorrow with Donkey Kong Country: Returns and Kirby's Epic Yarn so I might turn into a Wii owner after Sunday. Maybe. Just need a screen that supports Composite in my room.

If you happen to get a Wii, you should get the Component cables to get the 480p resolution, with the Composite cables the picture is quite blurry.

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What do you mean by this? I'm not giving you a hard time...I honestly don't quite understand but I'm curious.

The first Xbox targeted hardcore gamers, and made them a $4 billion loss. They really turned things around with the 360 (A lot of that has been to do with work done at Rare on the new dashboard and Kinect). It made sense that MS would be willing to operate at a loss to establish themselves in games, but the way they've pushed beyond the traditional games market has been quite incredible.

I also think it's interesting that the two studios they kept beyond the first Xbox have had hefty amounts of their resources directed into technology rather than games.

They've done some incredible business, and design too, which I never would have expected of Microsoft 10 years ago. Maybe Squid is talking about technology though :getmecoat

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If you happen to get a Wii, you should get the Component cables to get the 480p resolution, with the Composite cables the picture is quite blurry.

Thanks for the tip!

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Damn I just came to post that. Still, if Kinect sells, it'd be kind of miraculous what Microsoft did in just two console generations.

What, reduced games from works requiring intricate skill and accuracy to self-playing on-rails graphics porn demos? :spiraldy:

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What, reduced games from works requiring intricate skill and accuracy to self-playing on-rails graphics porn demos? :spiraldy:

If you're talking about the racing game video, I think it's only fair to point out that there's plenty of racing games using controllers that are exactly the same... at least on their early levels.

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Damn I just came to post that. Still, if Kinect sells, it'd be kind of miraculous what Microsoft did in just two console generations.

Oh I know it's not representative, I was mostly kidding. Though I don't think I've ever seen a racing game ever take that much control — not even Mario Kart.

Although I do still think the Kinect is pretty much incapable of handling anything beyond a stage or on-rails game. You might be able to manipulate where you are on that rail (ie: like in a racing game), but I don't see how the kind of free-form movement you get in most games I like to play could be accomplished without some kind of stick peripheral.

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... I don't see how the kind of free-form movement you get in most games I like to play could be accomplished without some kind of stick peripheral.

Why do you need a peripheral when you have... a penis?

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Oh I know it's not representative, I was mostly kidding. Though I don't think I've ever seen a racing game ever take that much control — not even Mario Kart.

Although I do still think the Kinect is pretty much incapable of handling anything beyond a stage or on-rails game. You might be able to manipulate where you are on that rail (ie: like in a racing game), but I don't see how the kind of free-form movement you get in most games I like to play could be accomplished without some kind of stick peripheral.

Exactly the way PC gamers felt about console FPSs, this might be a bigger jump, but I very much consider it possible. Unlike the Wii and The Playstation Move, Kinect is something completely new. Consider when people started using mice for PC shooters, it was something new. Maybe Kinect itself won't do it successful, but that isn't to say it can't be done.

Do I have the answer? Probably not. The actual tech is incredibly cool, and I'm looking forward to seeing what hackers do with it, maybe it's not going to be ideal for games.

Main point being if you can't see anything you want it for then it isn't for you, yet.

Disclaimer: I haven't got a Kinect.

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Why do you need a peripheral when you have... a penis?

You'll need a

(NSFW)

I think that Steel Battalion, Panzer Dragoon etc.. will actually show if Kinect is adequate for typical games. My guess is that Microsoft will end up making some sort of controller for Kinect, or they'll end up with an underwhelming catalog of games.

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It's funny, but ever since the Kinect came out, my wife has been telling me that we should get an Xbox360 with Kinect. Before she was telling me all the time that we don't need another console, we already got Nintendo Wii.

I personally don't care about Kinect, but I would like to get quite many games from XBL marketplace.

Lets see how this develops now then. :tmeh:

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My wife doesn't watch or even like Oprah. I think she has heard and read too much about Kinect in commercials and also Japanese news.

I blame EA Sports Active 2. If we end up getting Xbox360&Kinect, that will be the first thing she wants to buy for it.

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What kolzig is describing is something that I have seen and heard everywhere at the moment. Like the links to the Penny Arcade posts where he is finding his wife enchanted with the idea... I have a Sony Fan boy (I mean it in the nicest possible way) who has been made to cave on purchasing an X360 by his girlfriend. She went and bought the Kinect and Dance Central straight away.

It does now mean he can catch up on Shadow Complex, Crackdown, EDF etc. But his U-turn was phenomenal.

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The League of Legends video actually impressed me more because I know how fast and how precisely that requires clicking. I detected what I thought was a little bit of hesitation on menus, I'm not convinced it's QUITE as smooth and precise as a mouse, but damn if it's not much closer than the other motion controllers currently available.

That said, I think if the software for the PlayStation Move evolves sufficiently it could at least approach this sort of thing. Tumble is already a good example of its capabilities in a 3D space. It's really only the Kinect (which was designed more for accessibility than precision) and the Wii (which is simply outdated due to being first on the scene) that are lagging significantly behind at this point.

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