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Could anybody tell me how to embed text in links inside a forum system? I know how to do it in HTML, the whole

<a href="http://www.google.com/">google</a> 

Thing, but I've seen people do it on this very forum, and I can't seem to figure out the trick of it.

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No, I know how to do that. I mean, I see people embed links in a single word, and I have no idea how to do that.

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Yes, except that is not a valid url. What are you trying to link to anyway?

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Yes, except that is not a valid url. What are you trying to link to anyway?
My website, except I forgot to insert the ".com", because I am a silly person.

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It's kind of crazy to me but also vaguely heartening that in this day and age anyone is still learning their HTML before their BBCode. Jolly good show, sort of.

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Is it just me or have the barriers to entry to web scripting grown astoundingly large in the last dozen or so years? I mean, I started with Netscape Composer back when you didn't really have style sheets. I discovered that people were using tables through reverse engineering. I picked up PHP for fun, casually, by looking at some phpbb code at the dawn of PHP 4.

It seems nowadays you can't do anything worthwhile because you have to know mysql+php+html+css+javascript before you can even make a thing. And you don't even have to do any of that stuff, because it is effortless to start a blog and no amount of coding on your part is going to be as slick as what tumblr or blogger have to offer. And all the code that you can look at is crazy unintuitive and nonlinear, with OOP creeping into everything. And the casually curious can't even make heads and tails of fancy sites like gmail, since everything is hyper optimized and generated client-side and all human-readable bits have been excised. And with moving into retarded, closed platforms with heavy-handed gate-keepers like iOS, programs are more difficult to just make and release, so programming in general is probably going to become a niche dark art. Is there anyone out there younger than 60 who knows assembly language any more?

:fart:

Maybe this is all BOOKS ARE GOING TO DIE OUT BECAUSE KIDS TODAY DON'T KNOW HOW TO CAST LEAD SLUGS AND SET TYPE! kind of myopic thinking. Maybe the generation past ours ("we" being the generation that grew up with digital pr0n and is now inventing your youtubes and twitters and facebooks and such) will have some sort of intuitive grasp of the internet that we lack which is needed to advance it beyond wherever we can push it.

Ok. Pheuh. I am done. This whole rant is the flip-side of my usual rant, which goes to the tune of FUCKING INTERNET EXPLORER IS KEEPING US IN THE DARK AGES WITH ANTIQUATED TECHNOLOGY WHICH THEIR RETARDED USER BASE REFUSES TO REGULARLY UPDATE.

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Will IE9 be the same shit in a different colored box? I saw some ad that it's coming out next month or something like that.

I actually don't even care about the answer to that question, as I've used Opera and Firefox (earlier Netscape) since the day I first took the step to the world of the internets™

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IE9 is not going to support a slew of CSS3 things that are commonplace in sites and which the rest of the browsers have been supporting for many releases now. Also, it is going to be Vista+7 only, which means that the XP users, which are still quite a large share of the market, will stay with IE8 until the end of time.

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I know what you mean, KJ. JavaScript in particular has become quite alien to me. I feel like I knew pretty much what was going on and how to do most of the things I'd want to do, then I turned my back for a couple of years and now absolutely everything involves some sort of bizarre arcane object hierarchy or something. I'm sure the reasoning is at least half-decent, but it makes me wary to even bother using it at all. On the other hand, I've managed to work a bit of PHP into my job, which I'm quite pleased about. I'm sure everything I do would be painfully simple for a proper programmer/web developer/whatever, but I'm quite proud that I can even work out what the hell is going on (to some degree) with some of this labyrinthine OO stuff. The company I worked for recently moved its online store to Magento, which I can BEND TO MY WILL after hours of hitting my head against a wall and swearing.

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IE9 is not going to support a slew of CSS3 things that are commonplace in sites and which the rest of the browsers have been supporting for many releases now. Also, it is going to be Vista+7 only, which means that the XP users, which are still quite a large share of the market, will stay with IE8 until the end of time.

As a web developer, let me just state for the record that everyone being on IE8 would be just fine and dandy.

Fancy css3 is nice and all, but it's far, far down on the list of priorities when there's some 7.85% of users out there still on IE6. :frusty:

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I wouldn't mind it myself if we could just let it gracefully degrade. But at the eleventh hour, the account executive will come in and act shocked that the site doesn't look exactly like it did in the design, whereupon we always have to bend over backwards talking about seeing color tv on black and white tv sets and how much more time it would take to get all those rounded corners happening, etc.

Also, I see in my stats a decent cross section of the great unwashed masses of middle-of-the-road internet consumerdom, and I only get at most about 5% IE6. These sites are predominantly in the US though. I hear China is still majority IE6, or something along those lines.

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The big issue is that many companies tend to use older versions of IE and the migration is slow as hell. For example my workplace uses still IE7 and it was only like a year or so ago that they migrated from IE6.

Talks are that in a year we might even get IE8. Woot for the fast technological leaps.

Thankfully I can at least install Firefox and not use IE at work.

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These things won't go as slowly forever, though. It's less like moving through a thick gel and more like slowly pulling ones leg free of the thick mud of not giving a shit about standards. Though there'll always be the crusty old enterprise apps that will only work on IE6, but now that most developers actually know and care about standards, and most browsers are also approaching standards, things'll go a lot smoother in the future. I HOPE.

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As a web developer, let me just state for the record that everyone being on IE8 would be just fine and dandy.

Fancy css3 is nice and all, but it's far, far down on the list of priorities when there's some 7.85% of users out there still on IE6. :frusty:

That's worldwide. Europe and North America is more like <4%, and most of those will be business computers. And the number is getting smaller every day. In short: IMHO, if you code for IE6, you're wasting your time.

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That's worldwide. Europe and North America is more like <4%, and most of those will be business computers. And the number is getting smaller every day. In short: IMHO, if you code for IE6, you're wasting your time.

Yeah I just threw that number out there because it was the first site I'd found.

My company doesn't actually support IE6, but as a matter of principal, wtf South Korea/China. That's a link to an official MS site which (I haven't tried myself, but I've read) doesn't render properly in IE6. The irony boggles the mind. :erm:

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…doesn't render properly in IE6.

Looks fine. Also the outdated browser warning they're peddling shows up on the map page.

I wonder what percentage of the western world's IE6 stats are dev machines.

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