Is It Wrong To Eat Meat?

[TychoCelchuuu]

6 minutes ago, clyde said:

To be honest, it was just some Youtube video that seemed like a person with progressive-politics trying to combat a particular strain of islamophobia.

Not the best source of information. I'll look into it more.

Unfortunately, although it sounds like that person has great intentions, it could be that they're just parroting some nonsense they heard one time. The only slaughter rules that I know much about, which are kosher and halal, tend to be at best a wash, and at worst they lead to a lot of agony for the animals that get slaughtered.

[clyde]

This article was educational for me. It seems that there is debate among muslims about whether or not halal-certification is bending too much in order to allow for industrial meat-production. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/may/18/halal-food-uk-ethical-organic-safe

But I guess this means that the living-conditions (tayyib) is not currently being enforced.

This site appears to be speaking of the schism.

https://www.animalsinislam.com/islam-animal-rights/bismillah/

[TychoCelchuuu]

11 hours ago, clyde said:

This article was educational for me. It seems that there is debate among muslims about whether or not halal-certification is bending too much in order to allow for industrial meat-production. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/may/18/halal-food-uk-ethical-organic-safe

But I guess this means that the living-conditions (tayyib) is not currently being enforced.

This site appears to be speaking of the schism.

https://www.animalsinislam.com/islam-animal-rights/bismillah/

Right, there are basically always schisms on religious topics like this, so it's not like it's 100% clear cut (so it's relatively different from the way halal meat is produced, which is a 100% clear cut right across the jugular, sometimes without stunning the animal first, which is not a thrilling way to die). But the general idea is that you can't just buy halal meat and assume you're doing anything helpful from an animal rights perspective. There's probably a better chance you're doing something that's positively worse, and the most likely possibility is that you're doing something which is no different from the status quo. And because the status quo includes continual torture up until death for most animals, one might reasonably take issue with the status quo and on that basis refrain from purchasing meat.

[Ben X]

3 hours ago, Biking_Viking said:

(unless they literally wear their diet as a badge)