I hate it when...

[toblix]

...you found something in a game that takes time to investigate, like an object with a mark, or a book or letter that needs to be read, but the moment you start examining it you get a message describing the most essential thing about the item, or they guy says "So, I guess whatever the fuck this thing means blablabla".

Amirite?

[Roderick]

Well, that's why I play Morrowind.

I can actually read everything there

[toblix]

No, I don't mean books that you can't actually read, but books that you can read, and that hold some clue, but that the "discovery trigger" fires right when you open it for the first time, never actually letting you discover the things for yourself. Come on, almost every game does this!

[Roderick]

I can't really think of an instance when I was particularly bothered by it. Do you have some specifics of your own?

[toblix]

No. Fuck it.

[Roderick]

[JoannaDark]

you know what i hate more? when you have a problem to solve, say for example you have to break through a wall or something, and you have an item in your inventory that would according to logic to the job for you, say a hammer, but you cant use it. instead you have to search the fucking room for, i dunno, a toothpick or something.

[toblix]

Yeah, but that's almost a clich... what the fuck?! I can't write this letter anymore: é. I had to copy it from the fucking character map! What's wrong with my computer?!

[DanJW]

I know what you mean Toblix. It has bothered me a little, but not a huge amount. It would be nice if we got use our own brain to solve puzzles a bit more. Silent Hill 2 was good for this kind of thing... too good in fact. I couldn't be bothered to work out some of the puzzles when set to hard. I guess that's what the game designers are afraid of.

But yes it is nice when you work something out and get rewarded for it, rather than just triggering a cut-scene that tells you what the character has discovered.

[toblix]

I think it's time to resume this discussion.

[Roderick]

Right. Where was I?

[elmuerte]

Right. Where was I?

over there, in the corner

And he was outside, jumping on a couch to reach Xenu

[Erkki]

Yeah, this bothered me in The Witcher, where you'd start reading a book, then a notification about a quest update or somesuch immediately popped up, which often was a differently worded summary of the book's contents, but sometimes not.

[ThunderPeel2001]

Despite this being horrendously explained... Yes, I do know what you mean. But what's the solution?

[Chris]

It took me about a dozen replies before I actually understood what was being initially described

[ThunderPeel2001]

It took me about a dozen replies before I actually understood what was being initially described

Lol, same here actually.

[Roderick]

Back in Februari, Toblix was only just exploring his complaining abilities.

[Scrobbs]

Surely the reply to the thread title should be:

...when just about anything happens.