Greenpeace video game campaign video (LOL)

[Salka]

Could... someone... make a Hitler bomb smiley....

[Roderick]

(((( ))))

[miffy495]

Nah, that's more like Hitler sonar. Not that that's really all that less useful or anything, just not really what we're looking for.

...Actually, I may grab Hitler sonar as well. Can't hurt to be able to hear him coming.

[Thrik]

Let's fire this argument up again!

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Minority.Blogs&ContentRecord_id=f80a6386-802a-23ad-40c8-3c63dc2d02cb

[Marek]

Yeah I saw that document. It's extremely political. Drawn up by a senate committee that was until recently chaired by this guy. He's called the EPA the Gestapo and environmentalists Nazis. Real piece of work. More here. Marc Morano (the author of the article and former aide of Inhofe) is equally suspect. If you'll look on the committee site, you'll also find an embedded FOX News attack piece on Al Gore, so that should give another hint about what kind of source this is.

On the one hand you have this political document containing a handpicked list of scientists and quotes that in some cases only suggest or imply skepticism of global warming, but may just be responses to the hype of global warming.

Then there's the report from the IPCC, an actual neutral scientific body, which has support from an overwhelming number of scientists as well as the EPA, NASA, etc. etc.

Who to believe? Some senate committee just formerly chaired by some nutjob who incidentally takes large contributions from oil companies (and whose communications director slash spin doctor wrote this document), or an organization designed to be non-political and objective?

[Marek]

Okay, I just did a search and it turns out Tim Ball is listed amongst the 400 scientists. He's by far the most notorious 'climate change skeptic,' as he's actually funded by the oil industry (specifically ExxonMobile) and has fabricated many of his credentials. He's one the first guys you see in the documentary "The Great Global Warming Swindle".

Even if the other 399 names are legitimate, the mere fact that Tim Ball - the biggest motherfucker out there - is considered a real scientist by this author casts the entire list in doubt. Ignore this shit.

[Roderick]

I hate those political machinations that pose as science. It depresses me. Those people just want to sow doubt to be able to continu raping the environment. It's so easy. It's so depressing.