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  1. Lots of great takes in this thread. My $0.02: - The "mother" or "experiment" has a similar-looking head to The Arm as it (he?) is now - Whatever rich person set up the box with all the video cameras: were they anticipating the mother specifically? Did they have any idea that's what they would find? Also: is the mother "out" now, on the loose? - I kept thinking "electricity" in this episode. FWWM stressed it and it seems to be a recurring theme in this episode specifically. The tar men buzzed around the convenience store like electrons or something. Less confusingly, they talked with electro-voices. I don't know how that ties into it, but I guess it does. I was really hoping that BadCoop getting shot would mean that Dougie/Coop would suddenly snap back to good old Cooper Are we meant to understand that Bob is a corrupted form of whatever these things were that the "mother" spewed upon detonation of the atom bomb? Because he looks like a tumor. A vomit tumor. (Vomit Tumor will be the name of my death metal band.)
  2. Hey, sorry I haven't read the whole thread yet but: Has anybody connected Dougie's scrawling on his reports to the figures drawn in Owl cave? They look kinda similar in style and both have a connection to the Black Lodge.
  3. I think this show keeps showing us that we just can't assume what's going to happen after what we're shown
  4. Ah that did pop into my head, but the reversal in that scene is actually pretty funny. Willem Dafoe is such a perfect creep. That movie is so good
  5. LYNCH: "there are questions, and I don't have the answers" JONES: "Is it your instinct?" LYNCH: "Instinct means I'm hungry and I want to eat. Intuition is the thing." JONES: "ahh, yes." God damn it.
  6. What do y'all think the significance of the green light on the guy's face in the meeting was that let Cooper know that dude was lying? When Cooper was being helped with the slot machines by the floating Red Room icon, I had assumed that somebody from *beyond* was helping him out. But this interaction made me feel more like Cooper may have some sort of "second sight." They establish in Fire Walk With Me that he may very well have predictive powers, and we know from Twin Peaks stuff in general that Cooper has some kind of mystical connection to the world. Is it that that connection is one of the strongest parts of his personality, manifesting like his love for coffee? Or maybe his time in the Black Lodge gave him even greater powers of insight. Or maybe somebody like Mike is actually helping him from beyond, and these revelations are meant to shuttle him towards some goal.
  7. Episode listing

    Hey y'all, is there an easy way to view all the episodes of Idle Thumbs (or any of the other podcasts on the network) as a list? I want to send the list to my teammates for them to pick which titles sound the best to them. The episode archive separates them into 23 pages, but I only need a list of titles. This itunes page is also unhelpful in its own way.
  8. Episode listing

    That is absolutely perfect. Thank you!
  9. That's especially poignant after hearing about how people booed Fire Walk With Me, and also booed him for winning the big award for Wild at Heart:
  10. This guy on twitter went ahead and added some of the old music to these scenes, including the one you mention, and it's basically perfect:
  11. Entertainment Weekly just posted an interview with David Lynch that covers a theory put forth here:
  12. I'm wondering how long it will be until good Cooper's storyline converges with the Vegas storyline set up in episode 2 about the person you'd never want to be mixed up in things with. Who here said they speculated that person was Audrey? I think that's a great idea.
  13. I think one of the key things the person on the phone says is "I will be with Bob again." So I think you could make as much argument for Mike as you could Leland. Of course, we don't know who else may have Been with Bob.
  14. American Gods (TV series)

    So far I think it's more immediately interesting than the book. And I love the cast. IMO it, Twin Peaks, and Legion are the most interesting things on TV right now
  15. Yes. I am ready for an adult, mature Bobby. Also, I wonder if it's going to come up, or has already come up in his life, that he murdered a guy. Shot in self-defense, sure, but still...
  16. I don't think the doppelgangers were originally supposed to be separate entities? I liked the theory put forth in the podcast about Fire Walk With Me that Bob, as a possessing spirit, would certainly influence Leland and bring out some of his worst qualities, but that they were still Leland's qualities to contend with. And you even get some of that with this Doppelganger Cooper. He's very competent, like Cooper. Having two of them in the "real" world poses a problem, but I think that's the purpose Dougie serves. He was basically a body double for good Cooper to inhabit, since "his" body is being entirely controlled by the Doppelganger. Seeing Bob in the mirror in the original finale of the show would suggest that Cooper's possession works the same as Leland's, but I think it's becoming clearer that something slightly different is happening here. But not too different - as in episode four they talk about So clearly he is SUPPOSED to be one person. Edit: it could also be the case that doppelgangers are a thing that's specific to the black lodge and were only introduced in the finale so we just don't know how they work. I had assumed they were some kind of "expression of Bob" based on the final scene, but maybe that's not the case? The relation to Bob is the hard thing to parse, and given what the mysterious person on the phone (not Philip Jeffries?) talking to Doppelganger Cooper said about "being one with Bob again," I think this will be clarified later, or at least elaborated on.
  17. When I first saw Michael Cera I thought "nooo," because, unlike some of the other new people in this show, he just felt too big and well-known. It took me out of it for a second. But when I realized he was doing a kind of Brando impression it clicked and felt fucking perfect. Also hilarious.
  18. Man, during the discussion in the episode today about David Lynch and his views about deviant body types I kept thinking You're Forgetting Elephant Man! David Lynch is one of the few directors who has dedicated a film to humanizing those who are, in the eyes of society, deformed. That scene at the end of the movie where the circus freaks are walking him out of his captivity says everything you need to know about Lynch's attitude on the subject, I think. To say nothing of this classic scene: Also, while "the arm" is kind of a morally ambiguous character,
  19. Whoops, took out the one thing. Got confused between 2 and 3. The rest is kosher. The conversation with 'Jeffries': "you're going back in tomorrow. And I will be with Bob again." WHO COULD IT BE?
  20. Man, I felt very differently about this film than y'all. I went in with low expectations based on reviews, and quickly abandoned those. I think it's a more focused and cohesive film than Prometheus, with more fully fleshed-out characters. IMO it's easily better, despite being less ambitious or surprising. I'm happy that the focus isn't on the xenomorph. That was NOT the problem with Prometheus. Not knowing what to expect in that movie was actually one of its strengths. We've seen this thing plenty of times now. I don't think there's anything they can do with the alien at this point that would be remotely scary or surprising. I watched Prometheus again to prepare for this movie, and something I realized that is that David is the main character. He's an interesting character that has some big ideas baked into him. Maybe my biggest problem with Covenant is that those themes aren't really explored in this movie, and the whole David/Walter dynamic is essentially that of Data and Lore from TNG. However, as a horror movie? It worked for me. DAVID is the alien now. I'm excited to see where they go with this next. I don't think we've seen the last of the Prometheans/space jockeys (given that LV-426 is a different planet than the one explored in Prometheus, and the aliens hadn't existed in this form until this movie).
  21. With Alien: Covenant fresh in my mind, that glass box scene So it read to me as pure horror. And it was definitely scarier than anything I've seen on screen in a while. I find myself not being able to take horror stuff seriously, but in this context it worked a lot better for me. I literally said to myself out loud "well it can't break out of the glass, can it? No way." And then... On the podcast, I don't remember when, there was talk about how David Lynch would handle the introduction of new technology into this universe. I think the answer is both "directly" and sometimes "hilariously." I was thinking about that when I saw the box with all the cameras surrounding it and the SD cards. One more thing: The first couple episodes of this show were giving me some Fargo vibes. Definitely mining some of the same territory.
  22. Well-reasoned take: this is the best Shock game, hands down. This is Arkane tributing and surpassing their heroes as they did with Dishonored. It's just so smart. I've heard some people trash-talking the story and writing, and I cannot disagree with them more. This game had writing that perfectly fit the format. The NPC interaction was limited as they usually are in these games, but it didn't feel like it would be IMPOSSIBLE to run across a friendly NPC, as it was in Bioshock 1.
  23. YES. I figured it was Lynch just giving him a part for old times' sake, and I was so stoked. It's hard to know what to say about this ep. All the stuff I want to talk about was in 3 and 4. Kyle McLaughlin's range in this show is kind of incredible. That scene with Doppleganger Cooper and Darya was awesome. It gave me goosebumps like Anton Chigurh in No Country for Old Men. And then PHILLIP JEFFRIES? just hearing his name in the show made me happy that they didn't abandon that character despite the death of David Bowie (rest in peace). I heard David Lynch said Fire Walk With Me was crucial for understanding this show, but in a lot of ways it kind of feels like it was, retroactively, the beginning of this new thing that Twin Peaks is. One more thing: the fact that they wrote one script, shot it all, and then figured out the episodes in editing is SO apparent. Not that that's a bad thing, but it really feels like the longest movie David Lynch has ever made. There is no formula here. Genre be damned. It makes for weird viewing because Twin Peaks was so much of a mash-up of a police procedural murder mystery, a soap opera, and even a sitcom at times. A lot of the flavor of the show came from the conscious interplay of those elements. I know some people will be disappointed, but I feel about that the way that I did about FWWM: it feels purer. This show is no less quirky or funny (and it can be fucking hilarious) than it was when it was a lot more formulaic.
  24. I ended up having really mixed feelings about this book, which I guess is the general consensus. I ended up rooting against the protag a lot of the time. I wanted to see him knocked down a few pegs. Obviously the author is very smart, but this book felt like wish-fulfillment of a kind. The protag was too good at everything, too sympathetic. Somehow, his flaws made him faultless. I wanted more than anything for him to finally be humbled by something, but I guess this is not that story. I would have loved it when I was 15. I would have adored this character and really felt his problems, especially his girl problems. But then, I liked "A Spell for Chameleon," even though I knew it was stupid. Looking at reviews for The Wise Man's Fear, I can't help but think that book is going to mine that same vein of pubescent fantasy, and being 27 now, I'm far more interested in the emotional context and nuance that comes with the sex of adulthood.