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  1. Some of these clips are really interesting and I’m really glad they exist. It was neat to see Pete and the bank manager have a long discussion about wood. Its intersting to to me how much “classic” twin peaks was stripped from the film (coop and Diane banter, Leland being over friendly but slightly insane, the doc being nice to Laura, ed and Norma with nadine). You can see why all of it was chopped to give the overall tone of the film something far more consistent and solid and maintaining some ambiguity (cooper at the end of series 2). A couple of others worth noting: coopers room analysis is identical to Leo’s. Bobby nearly laughs his head off when Laura says baby laxative I think my favourite deleted scene is the extra long Donna/doc Hayward/Laura scene. I love how in the conversation between Donna and just subtly illustrates that Laura’s oblivion is a choice which isn’t about sex because it’s a cool thing to do - she criticises Donna - but that it’s her coping with whatever deeper horribleness she needs to block out. This could be the Leland stuff but it could be something else entirely. I think also when doc is nice to her is a really important moment because I don’t think we ever see much kindness or warmth to Laura. Even donna seems to only be nice in the same way a birthday card might express friendliness
  2. Reading this after watching series 3 is a really intriguing experience.
  3. After completing my watch of all things twin peaks in the most odd order (series 3, original series and ending with fire walk with me) the thing has ended in a kind of deflating way. I wonder if listening to the podcasts and how much fire walk with me was important to the whole the sense i get is that the film is kind of unecessary in a lot of ways (maybe in the absence of series 3 it was less so) but now it feels like literally everything important in fwwm is transplanted into series 3 it is really not the thing to watch last. (Or at all perhaps now). The overriding feeling I ended up with was that this was the Laura Palmer thing lynch needed to do because Laura Palmer had a whole bunch of mythology bubbling around but no real version of her existed on a canvas. Unfortunately I think the version of Laura we got was done in a really creepy and ogling way - while I can sort of see the point of some of it in a certain story telling way a lot of it felt exploitative for the “coolness” of it. There were some real bum notes - I really think the film missed Lara flynn Boyle - it would have been amazing to see that Donna bounce off Laura (I think fake Donna did a good enough job though) some of the stuff in the weird montage felt like dropping stuff for the sake of having something to hang a reveal on. Its interesting to hear the legendary status of the Formica table only for it to turn into a literal nothing (particularly when the film opens with a dancing woman bopping you on the nose about details). Series 3 I thought there’d be more in relation to David Bowie but it was pretty much nothing really over meaningless fluff that retrospectively has meaning placed on it. I wonder what I did like. Leland being sweaty is always good. Im glad they worked in Harold too. The whole crap version of twin peaks town was a nice touch and then open with twin peaks tv show. Its kind of interesting to see this sort of layer cake of universes that exist but are slightly different twin peaks. Sheryl lee does do a fantastic job. Her scene when she’s laughing about bobby killing mike is top class work.
  4. I thought this was better than the secret history which seemed to get bogged down in too much “out there ness” as fact. It was interesting to see how they tie Laura getting diverted in time by Coop into the world. It doesn’t quite hang together but it’s probably a necessary effort. I found with this and the secret history that tamara Preston (TP - twin peaks?) sounds far more chatty and perhaps a little frostish (happy to wander into flights of conspiracy and so on) while here character on film seems more stoic and professional. It struck me that both Jeffries and Coop wander in and out of space and time and ask what year it is when it all goes wrong. Maybe coop faces becoming a coffee pot.
  5. On the whole this episode felt like eating too much food for lunch then sort of relaxing in the afternoon. Glastonbury grove was too much egg on the pudding of everything else. In a way it seems like it would have been better if they concreted over the ghostwood with a golf club. Man hawk knew all along and told no one of the evidence he found?!!? Nice to see coop and truman in the truck again (like the first episode). i don’t know why ed is clicking but it’s kind of a cool way to show how happy and relaxed he is. I like the painting with the lights in his and nadines house. Does horne ever say that he’s donnas father? I thought it was ambiguous and then more ambiguous. Doc goes really weird. The whole thing feels similar to the Leland death scene too. Lynch does like a Venus di milo! the shooting with the strobe light on coops face is really good. when the giant says “we are the same” does he mean With the old person or the little man? Series 3 Does the bridge imply ronette came directly from the lodge? lynch does like over playing a doddery old man scene. How does Andrew have a note in the safe? Everyone thought he was dead until the night Thomas died and catherine got the box. Series 3 Nice to see Shelly and Bobbys thing (he seems to have integrated his dog bark too) Who is speaking through Sarah? Laura? series 3 The actor who plays Laura can really scream. I never realised the connection between the porcelain and coffee and the black and white of the floor and the lodges. (It suggests more the “black lodge” we see is nothing of the sort and more of an intermediate lodge - although only bad stuff happens it seems - but that goes towards it being a testing ground. I must say kyle machachlans last performance is really fantastic. Series 3 I don’t think I really like this as a last episode for a series but I think contextually it’s pretty interesting Series 3 I can sort of see why they never wanted to reveal Laura’s killer because it feels like the show wanted to show a character (coop) In a perpetual death spiral (sort of like the poster of vertigo).
  6. After reading comments: that rehearsal scene is worth a rewatch for these reasons- shelly and donna theres a sandwich goddamn deer man. Man there were whole swathes of terrible in this episode but I can’t imagine it was avoidable given everything in the air with two episodes to go and one of those being IMPORTANT. The opening scene was really good. It was nice that Leo sort of redeems himself by thinking of Shelly and freeing garland (aware of his own inability to do so). creepy Earle was also good (although really confusing too). Shelly was robbed, but we can see the fix was in from the start with Annie its nice to see Horne and Audrey on decent terms at this point. Series 3 Cooper’s leaps are really really really irritating. They seem to exist from nothing to concrete and so much is just STATED that I hate it. that there’s a drawing with two mountains on it and so the inability to decipher this (or even look at it) is really at odds with some of the garboldo coop comes out with and states has a logic to it. The worst is how the twin peaks links to the queen links to a plan that only makes sense sort of?! Bad. I actually like earle a fair bit here even though he probably goes a bit too long. His trap for Leo is pretty rude. I hate everything with and the story around Lana. Coop saying that Annie is an “original” is contradicted by the existence of cooper. Coope while ripping all of annie’s clothes off and kissing her: “I want to make love to you”. I know these are some of the most weird humans but come on. Annies speech later is surprisingly well considered given the context and time spent on it. I feel like nadine is really interesting here (and reflected earlier too). She sees ed as hers (or at least off limits to everyone else) even while she goes off with mike and has adventures. She has a sense of justice which means she can’t publically stop him and Norma being together. It’s a shame that these feelings won’t get resolved properly because she’ll forget most of it when she gets her memories back. Series 3 Judy Garland! Series 3 Who would open a box using a vice? This has been the stupidest puzzle box in the world. Donna is a complete ass in this episode and even when she’s about to get what she wants she runs off on assumptions. Maybe it’s realistic but it feels bad. Lucy is clearly the best dancer on the twin peaks cast (female cast at least) So annoying to see bobby in letch mode again. That at last scene was really good disorienting and scary.
  7. The sense I get from this episode is a bit like a less extreme version of the Diane Keaton one - a person wants to fit in some tricks and odd imagery because they want to make a mark. It kind of goes a bit too weird though at some points - for example the dead man throbbing back and forth inside the chess piece. The moving of the chess piece (and it’s journey) is particularly amusing though. I dont get why everyone (especially cooper) is so chipper after finding the murder. Is cappy the guy guy from the bookhouse who got honked on the head and has notes (makes sense why hawk and Truman are cool with him). The whole: oh no wheeler and Audrey keep missing each other and eventual meeting arc only really works if you care about this relationship. It comes off as forced and crap. Donna has a good light show behind her as she investigates mystery. There’s a fair bit of darkness as a result of partially obscuring broad daylight in this episode. ITS LIKE REVERSE LYNCH THEME. I’m sure Briggs is wasted with everything related to the conspiracy. I kind of liked wisdom Briggs way better than meaningless drivel lore Briggs. Also everyone keeps saying black lodge a lot as if it has meaning. Earle shows his and everyone’s true feelings about the chess game. For a bit I thought the wavy hand was to do with the pie. I assume it links to mikes arm in some way too. Bobby turns it around. It’s nice to see Shelly and him walking towards happiness. Series 3 Man the racist Indian accent. Woof. It felt like the show was reducing this but it’s back again!! the Leo buzzer thing was funny and sad at the same time. A good scene really - earl showed his real meanness. He basically must have been told to Be the Joker. Josies face! cooper to Truman: love is great it’s the best man it’s so swell to be in love is the best omg Im totes in Lurve. Fuck the whole virgin plane thing. Its kind of weird how the show split coop and audrey only to pair them each with people with zero chemistry. It’s the worst. Why does the camera zoom out on Annie and coop? It starts off nice (they are the only people in the world) then gets sinister for no reason. Maybe it links to the giant saying Annie will be coops doom or something. Maple syrup. I can’t shake the feeling that Pete thinks he’s got a chance with Audrey because of fishing. Eckhardt makes a puzzle box, two layers of which open by smashing it. Top work. The whole code was dumb too. Like the code in the box related to the day he died some how?! annie spends the whole time talking about how she wants to be intimate with coop looking away from him. I just. Er. I was as unimpressed with the black lodge area introduction as I was when I first saw it. A black puddle? And the linking to cooper’s dream area feels really hamfisted and only a retrospective yet nonsensical direction.
  8. Hmm I am starting to lose momentum doing this (the steam sort of went a few episodes ago). I think a lot of the thoughts I had which tried to contrast this with series 3 have kind of evaporated. It’s striking how little the business end of twin peaks origninal run has with series 3 - at least on a character level. There some plot (read: terminology) that is studded but it’s kind of uninteresting. I think this is two weeks weeks in a row where the pay off for the cliffhanger was bad. I kind of like the design of the petroglyph but it seems like a lot of vagueness/ a crap map of twin peaks to hide behind such a sophisticated contraption. They also dont seem that alarmed that this has been unlocked more bemused. Dont think i like introducing people just to have them die. I guess it’s a necessity since twin peaks has changed from one murder causes the town to show up To murderville. Was Catherine ever meant to open the box? The solution seems too oblique to be openable?! The keenness to open is still odd to me (and the lack of Andrew showing an interest). Bobby shows almost zero character growth through the whole series. He just is some two bit chump. I would have hoped his encounters with his dad would have got him to change a bit but nothing. Lana’s plan has the smell of being a long con to win miss twin peaks but the contest seems to only have become a thing for a few days after the marriage. also don’t like that she actually is a schemer eventually. Shelly is really fantastic in this episode. There are some great looks In this episode outside of the main pieces of action in any scene. Earles relationship with cooper is really one note: literally another thing about Caroline over and over again. Earle is a terrible character when described but I think the actor does a really good job with him most of the time (I think the description as basically the joker is apt). horne and Leo have this thing where they seem almost decent now in a short space of time and the greater darkness of a bigger villain being the focus. Series 3 Pete playing surrogate Catherine while Horne plots away is great. His suspicious looks are the best. Its weird and good we haven’t seen bobby and mike together in a while. The least nostalgic reunion. Earle looks at the cave painting. Catherine: in a way I admirered Josie, even though she did many things to hurt my family I appreciate that she was a survivor and did whatever was necessary to survive. It may have caused us problems but I can empathise with a person who does whatever is necessary truman: Josie was beautiful. Truman somehow filling the vacuum left by James (a vacuum squared I guess). The next clue on the box relates to the phases of the moon: fat chance of having a clue when to open it in Twin Peaks!! dick tremaynes actor does a good job of the whole wine tasting. The Cole Shelly scene is really cute. I feel like it is Cole and not “scammer bobby” that got her to enter the contest and made her feel confident enough to try. (Also her face when Cole is talking!!!) I love how Cole describes the scene as a director might. Very nice. Get lost wheeler. Why does Donna threaten to leave the country? hey this might be a bomb- for safety let’s rig up this rock and police tape contraption -and then shoot at it.
  9. So that whole assassin thing? Er. Her boss is dead and she still goes to murder Harry in a way which is elaborate and ruins the plan anyway? Top work just senseless titilation I think. “Hey Audrey I knew your grandad, by the way if you’re gonna flirt you better be willing to have sex with me in my crap jumper”. The first sign of old cooper!!! Clearly his remedy is a ruse (no it’s an actual remedy and much like everything else about coop it’s basically cribbed off Cole?). The whole card playing thing was laboured. I bet it sounded cool in the meeting room. Man i thought Horne and Donnas mum would be something more innocuous. Donna should just stop nosing around - even the doc doesn’t want to know [again] (which as my partner pointed out didn’t end well for harold). The whole diner scene was weird. Is it meant to imply COLES entire hearing thing is a scam? Series 3 I like how coop is framed to be watching this palaver. Coop is drawing some tattoos but they are different to before. Garland had three triangles not three diamonds! This lack of caring about the tattoos just seems to be a thing (see the secret history for more) laughing laughing laughing Owl cave. Annie does feel like a pseudo coop though. I think Earle is a really weird character. Any time he’s with people he’s really good but on his own he’s more often a goof. I wonder if they said pete enough times for the microphone. I like the whole audrey and Horne scene and especially that Horne keeps a carrot cigar in his pocket. Why do they do this much of owl cave then...go home?
  10. I think this was quite a good episode really. Much more enjoyable. Emotional Truman was expected (I think coop sums it up nicely about people who love rarely). I could have done without the ott nwar music and Josie montage (it seemed like he enjoyed the bits where he was played or gross too). I really liked all of the scenes with Windom Earle. He was really menacing and clever through out. I especially liked his Donna scene because of how he weedled his way in with vague but precise details (I wished it wasn’t the normal jazzy music though, undercut the scariness and highlighted a goofiness). I also liked that Earle spotted cooper’s deception (and coops underestimation of the situation - although I believe coop should have seen this). Dick is a dick. Good on the weasel. I find everything about wheeler gross. In this episode his pseudo James dopeyness and his inability to take off his jacket and hat. Hello I represent your mortal enemy who you killed please take this non suspicious box. So a weid thing about Margaret’s tattoo is that in the secret history it’s actually the same as garlands. Weird. I like how donna drinks a coke like she’s smoking a cigarette. Nice touch. It occurs to me that ed wanting to divorce nadine here is really bad. I mean, does it count if she can’t tell that she’s getting divorced?! What happens if she returns to 38 year old nadine? Jacoby is also bad here. Horne and donnas mum!!! This looks too blatantly bad to be bad. I loved loved loved shellys little bit about the pageant. Cooper seems to just follow his willy. Such a dog. Sometimes i I really hate how this show views women and I think coop talking to truman is really gross. Essentially all crimes by Josie are fine (including shooting coop - why does she shoot him really?) except... she’s arrested for prostitution. That makes truman stop. Bad bad bad. I did like how coop hugged truman down though. More horne (Ben - seems more like a horne than a Ben) is firing on all cylinders and some bonus Catherine Ben banter- please more! who was the guy in the bookhouse? We needed to watch that twice to work out it was truman. Really odd scene from nowhere and apparently to nowhere.
  11. While the last episode was kind of over the place I think at least it was quite an interesting episode. This one a lot of things happened but my overall impression was a little less enthusiastic. The chess game start was fine I guess. Pete making a breakfast with a smiley face was fine I guess the whole Packard eckhardt josie stuff is a real turn off. Especially when they are all lying to each other but for an end I don’t get. Like was eckhardt meant to be goaded into killing Josie in the great northern except all he wants to do is sleep with her? It’s all confusing to zero sense. Hank comes in overly cocky given that he’s totally in the poo. Kind of weird how him and James are both described as witnesses in the episode. Billy zane stuff is weird. Is he trying to flirt with Audrey by posing as a complete pedophile? :-S Ed is pragmatic about him and nadine. good on Norma for booting hank. He’s got all the crap deals today. I nice recreation of josies first scene for some reason. I like this “new leaf” Ben. No cigar, celery. What I really liked is that this Ben is doing this ghostwood sabotage as part of his game. It’s so good to have this part of Horne exist all the way through. I can’t comprehend what the purpose of bringing Shelly with Donna and Audrey was. Seemed kind of arbitrary. All of the weird “lodge” stuff along with josies death seemed kind of tacked on (I guess they needed a way to prevent everyone killing her). I wonder if those 3 d graphics were good for the time?
  12. This was some episode. I think for all the ridiculous “I bet I’ve got one chance to do this so I better do everything” stuff there’s some really fun goofy stuff. But also seem really rank stuff. It is is much better than the last episode at least to my mind because while characters are ott they are at least not merely explained as being whatever. It seemed like there was a Shelbyville twin peaks team with a fake Andy leading the trio and a fake hawk at the back. I sort of thought Evelyn should have planted the whole thing on Malcolm from the start. Also james can’t figure it out. bobby seems to have regressed to day one school bobby (with an iconic hat to boot). Shelly seems to be over it though so that’s good. Im not sure where alberts love comes from but it’s nice to see. I wanted all the clues that Albert throws down to spell OOPER. i feel like this Windom Earle (crazy jumping around guy) would have been much better if cooper didn’t spend half the time talking about him. He does show a bit of ingenuity with his device but really he needs to show some real deviousness (he does show threat and control though with the bamboo cudgel). I liked nadine in the scene (possibly a bit too obvious with the head twist). It’s kind of amusing that ed isn’t really the one who is honest (nadine does that for him) even though he’s in bed with Norma. Whats the deal door by Pete? and Popeyes spinach!!!! It feels like eckhardt is surprised that Josie is at Catherine’s even though he phoned a number at Catherine’s house? man I hate how small Josie has become in this. It’s pretty disgusting. I like Audrey taking control. Season 3 The whole plan of getting Horne back is nice and has a heartwarming feeling (very odd). I liked Audrey giving bobby a bop on the face. More episodes should include a bobby face hit. Jacoby has a great tie. Deus Ex Pete the chess champion. I dont get how cooper, who must be a decent player, thinks a stalemate can exist with no pieces taken - the chess thing feels like a trap they’ve bound themselves and the plot to but without really understanding how to go forward with it. Series 3 Catherine trading Josie can go in a bin. (Is josie’s Wine incompetence meant to show how nervous Tom makes her?!) james is such a dumbass and kind of creepy and violent towards Evelyn Do not like. The Malcom Evelyn dynamic makes no sense to me. there are are a lot of owls in this episode. The mask is s really neat visual (even though they nose bop with it being Caroline’s face). Series 3
  13. Twin Peaks Rewatch 22: Double Play

    Does anyone else’s face hurt because that episode was ridiculously on the nose. Jean Renault was right. Coop is a nightmare bringer!! so Denise was not needed anymore off she goes! earle and cooper have spent the week playing three moves of chess and nothing except standard moves have happened. And YET so much philosophy. When coop is talking about the deer and the chess set and so on (precise etc) is he fake talking about twin peaks itself?! truman is back to his doctor Watson mode. Bobby confused “I’m your boss” with “I want to be with you” what a dope. At least he provides a distraction for Shelly to stab Leo. Cooper has a lot to say to Truman. Zzzzzz Lucy gets more angry Bad. More James. Evelyn’s husband seems kind of nice? But not in a hank way that suggests a hidden menace. Unsurprising that james is a patsy. Series 3 Did anyone catch what sport James was watching? Probably football. Anyway. James tries to leave and then doesn’t then tries again then doesn’t until he gets thrown out. I feel like jacoby isn’t entirely concerned about Horne as a person and more as an entertainment. (He would presumably know about Horne and Laura). Also I quite liked the shot with the fan and the flag (connotations aside). Garland shows up and goes into the shadows. All of the ex future milford is awful. More de on the nose crap from Catherine except this time Pete is truman. Who is this guy with a chess set and a de facto fbi uniform? is it could it be... W I N D O M E A R L E Windom Earle that’s Earle to the windom, don’t forget now. (I guess Leo is now truman).
  14. Twin Peaks Rewatch 21: Checkmate

    The opening was kind of out there. I can’t tell if garland is permanently in that weird chair space or what the heck the pilot costume was for. The scar/tattoo just feels like a n other meaningless mystery. Of course conspiracy coop knows about blue book! It’s weird that garland can do this off his own steam (intriguingly you have duchovny in this episode which foreshadows the x files a fair bit). I like how it’s the third episode in a row that there’s classified information (although after the others steadfastness it’s garland who seems to be giving up the goods). Half eaten donut. The way coop pops his head in is so incredibly cheesy. More crap with Andy and Dick. Cooper, when talking to Lucy, seems lessened as a person - hunched and disappointed. Im glad bobby gets a slap. Needs more. They’re feeding Leo a lot of jam. James and Evelyn has possibly the best bit of viewer voice (all that “I can read your voice”). Everything else is gross from the implied incest to James boringly talking about how it’s his fault that maddy died to shagging Evelyn even though he only just gave a ring to Donna. Groooooooss. The whole Truman wrapping himself on Josie is also mega creepy and gross. I like bad ass Audrey. The feeling I get is that she’s acted like a child because she’s never needed or had the space to grow. But when coop showed up she sort of has things to aim for. Mad Horne is weird. I still dont don’t know what ed wanted to say to Norma. Although it’s great hank gets punched in the face by nadine. Obviously hank doesn’t care about breakfast as much as he made out (and when he vanished for days with Ernie). I like that coop was made a deputy. It seems obvious a move but a good one. The surprise that Denise can pull a man look off is kind of funny in a way. But also coop knew this so his surprise is odd. Im not really sure what happens when Catherine sees super grubby and, defeated, crazy Horne. what is she seeing? Maybe whatever is in her mind when she chose that coat that morning. Good that audrey rebuffed the slime bobby. I had a horrible sense that the whole Denise arc is about setting up the pie based sneak attack at the last second. I did like coopers apparent introspection at jeans statements. Probably true to an extent. CReePy LEo. And another ramped ending with imagery from nowhere.
  15. There’s some nice little acting bits in this episode. Ben’s ridiculous Feng shui has the subtlety of a tower with Ben at the top. Cooper using his his Tibetan method variant to find the drug deal is actually kind of cool thinking about it! The devil Nicky has exactly the same outfit as dick. Nice Series 3: Dougie dying is not unexpected. And his brother is great in this episode. I liked the scene where he’s pressing charges and the doc is absolutely creasing up in the background - Truman tries to be stoic. Hawk is a complete Dog. I’m the big guy. I really like nadine’s acting in this scene here little mannerisms are really great. It’s kind of weird that there’s an audience for the wrestling practice. Also of note is the coach counting a three which I think is only true in pro wrestling rather than amateur where a pin of one is sufficient. I feel like James is gonna bear up Evelyn’s husband to replace some of his Laura guilt. As it stands him and the brother are as lame as the poser bobby. Classic teeth in cocaine scene by coops. It feels out of fashion nowadays but you couldn’t wade through cop shows with out seeing this in the olden days. Bobby is an absolute cad. He dumps Leo onto Shelly and then because he’s bored he letches on Audrey. What an ass. It looks like Audrey’s in business for herself though - good for her! i liked Audrey’s scene with Denise too. She seemed so delighted. Inspired!! of course horne thinks he’s a southern general. Catherine and Pete is a really odd scene. He swings wildly between enjoying and hating the scene. It feels like the portions in the RR have got smaller. Last weeks malted was much smaller than nadines and the pies come on tiny plates with no ice cream. Hate hate hated the fawning of milfords wife that scene was gross for what it was about - even though I really liked the actual imagery. I was shocked it was denise confronting Eddie (?) was expecting Norma’s mum. It is nice to see bobby had taken his dads words so much to heart. It was weird seeing garland in old aviator gear all of a sudden. I think the last three episodes have had some really off the wall cliff hangers and I don’t like it. They seem like they come from nothing and are really really cheap ways to end episodes and on such a regular beat. Hope it ends.