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On this topic, I've always wondered why (and I probably ask someone this at least three times a year) the fighting game community seems to have a lot more black people than any other gaming community. Most of the personalities that I know of (as a follower of exactly zero fighting game scenes), in fact, are black. Still very few women, if any(?).

I'd rather have a rotten tomato than even think about touching ketchup. That shit makes me nauseous.

I do believe that's the point.

Counterpoint: good tomatoes are fucking delicious. Bad tomatoes can ruin my whole meal. I'd just rather not take the risk most of the time, to be honest.

well but people with tattoos are not a race with centuries of history of oppression

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

It's okay. I try to take a lot of time to thoroughly explain my thought process on controversial things where I know I'm the odd man out, while also profusely apologizing through an entire paragraph, and I still get people being condescending at me and acting like I'm unaware of the thing I specifically said I was aware of in places like the feminism thread, no less. Everything sucks! I quit!

I think the thing is the map is much bigger in Dota, and although heroes move faster (I think??? I remember that being some I had to get used to?!), the creeps still have a long way to travel. And yeah because of things like TP and/or heroes that just have really high mobility, it's a lot easier to respond in time.

Yes I am one of them! I guess I'd say if you don't want to be lecturing me, that's fine. Don't do it! Someone else might, though!

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I remember the context! Your justification still falls short! Time has not changed this. The forum does have that functionality but I forgot about it until you just now mentioned it.

Haha oh okay then. (I remember this conversation, now.)

I barely know you so I can't possibly hate you!

It's hard to say without knowing what I was responding to, but I wouldn't have said "well fuck you then" if the person I was responding to wasn't being shitty. Definitely nobody said anything about hate, though! I've only hated one person in my life, and that was a brief period of time.

There's the obvious denying and pulling jungle camps to kill a wave and deny the enemy all that xp and gold. But there's more advanced stuff, too. For example, if you watch, you'll often see pros right-click on an enemy hero to aggro the enemy creeps and pull them closer to the friendly tower. This basically means that the enemy creeps end up attacking your ranged creep, which is important, because it's the one that pushes the hardest if it doesn't get attacked. It can also just help in general pulling the wave back closer to the tower. But to answer your actual question that I just read: I think it's theoretically possible, but it involves such an incredible amount of fiddling that it doesn't happen often. I've personally done it a few times just to try. But it's pretty easy to counter that. Killing a big creep wave is almost just as easy as a small creep wave, unless the barracks are down in that lane. Plus it gives the enemy team a lot of farm all at once if they happen to notice before the tower kills everything. Bad enough when it just happens naturally, but when you make it happen yourself, you're a goof.

Is jungling in LoL still the primary ganker role? If so, that's replaced in Dota by roaming supports, rather frequently! But also as sclpls said, it's not like you can't jungle. It's just that it doesn't happen often. (It used to happen more, and will probably come back into style again at some point in the future.) Also, Baron does exist in Dota! It's just called Rosh. The buff you get from killing it is different, but it's still essentially a bonus to your team for a period of time. I just looked up the changes to dragon. That's weird. But still essentially just an extra buff-boss. It's more of a readjustment of expectations than an unlearning of expectations. At least, that's how I know I'd treat it if I went back to LoL. I had forgotten about jungle buffs! Those are interesting. I always liked those. Also when I was talking about change, I wasn't really talking about tweaking balance or whatever, I was talking about actually changing the fundamentals of the game. Like you'll never see an Invoker type of hero in LoL. Or a Meepo. Or denying. Or jungle stacks. Stuff like that is why I think it's not a big deal making that jump (at least in terms of Forgetting Things). You're mostly learning new things when going from L->D. Dota, for better and/or worse, has many more things that League doesn't, than League has that Dota doesn't. Oof what a sentence that was. I use argument and discussion interchangeably. They mean the same thing here. It's perfectly possible to have a calm and friendly argument! But these forums have had them many times before, so I was trying to avoid it. But whatever you get what you asked for!

lol what

Yeah I was trying to avoid going into any gameplay details because the last thing I want is another LoL vs Dota argument on the internet, but I played League for a long time before I made the transition to Dota. I'd also say that making the transition to Dota is more about adding information than it is about changing information, if that makes sense. Like there's very little League does that Dota doesn't do (biggest being summoner spells, runes, etc.), whereas there's a lot a lot a lot Dota does that League doesn't do. Unless things have changed considerably since I stopped caring about League. U:

Dunno if anyone here has seen this but I thought it was pretty cool. ppd goes over his drafting strategies for the TI5 grand finals.

It's interesting that you say that because, to the vast community on the internet, I don't think there is a difference. Or at least it's not one they care to state. It's all just racism. I've certainly never heard it said as you did here.

Infrared is at least actually pronounced how it's spelled. Queue, unfortunately, is not pronounced "kyoo-ee-yoo-ee". ):

I made the switch pretty completely from LoL to Dota 2 within the span of a month, which is a not insignificant amount of time to a layman, but when I have 3000+ hours in Dota 2 at this point... is actually pretty insignificant.

I only quit like one game a year and if I do I'm not going back. I have to really really hate a game to quit it.

^ my reaction as well

I don't think it's fair to say(/imply) you can't deal with Transistor's challenges with skillful play.