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Noone reads magazines around here ?

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Oh man, I'm so late on this… Three month later, Ossk's back to reply ;P What I mean by "learning things about yourself" is actually just learning things. One might think that, cornered, I have to pretend and change words around but no : when you learn something completely new, there is a voice in your head that goes "genius". And that moment, when you realize that you saw something you never saw, you heard something you never heard, that is Art™. When you know that you are casting what you just experienced in a part of your brain and that it will never go away, that, in my opinion, is the art moment. It changes you, and teaches you something that was there…*I mean, the fact that you can understand it, often enough, is the proof that your brain is wired to accept that concept, and that you might be able to reuse it… You, as a cognitive person, are changed. Then again, this is my take on the subject of the "what is art" but I thought about it a lot and have written a decent amount on it to find something that is as pleasing to me intellectually as this process is. Well…*But then, what is art? I mean, if anything can be art as long as it's liked, what about other civilizations? What about art we don't know about? Is it not art at all because we ignore it's existence? Well…*yeah… You're right, except that even if such a framework existed, it would have, to qualify as a decent art framework, to contain everything… Every single of the "visions" that could exist or come out of human's minds… And then what ? Then if things are art and things aren't it doesn't means they can't exist ! For now, video games are so fucking far away from being art pieces for like…*99.99% of them, and it doesn't bother anyone but a handful of jerks… What bothers me is not that they aren't, it's that they can't be. I mean…*I'm a game designer…*I make games happen too… But I can't make them out of the blue, especially if they ought to be art… I mean, there is something in the Marriage that can be observed as art, but to me it's more like an aquarium…*You try and understand what's happening, not really knowing if there are rules or not… And then you interpret what you see. Truthfully, all the colors of Mona Lisa, a sketch of her face, an empty canvas and a pile of brushes don't make art. There needs to be an artist, and in our case, the BIG question is : who is it ? The player or the makers ? But then…*What is first class entertainment ? Citizen Kane is a movie… It is entertainment…*Plays ? Litterature ? They are entertainment… Just so good we call it art. Yeah…*But you fall on your ass back again if you say "everything is art but not everything is good art"… Because once you get there, you're still screwed on the "what is (good) art" level aren't you ?

Sorry, I might have to plug my shit here : A while ago, a friend and I went on to create a video games series that sadly died with our camera, but it was all about what games are. Of course, one of the questions that arose was "are they art" and with that came "what is art"… And into pop culture, that's a question that's been widely debated. Some dismiss it (of course it is (/not) art !) but basically the two biases are : -Either you say everything in [said category] is art and then all of a sudden, it's not that interesting to be an artist : if packing shit in cans is enough to be one, well…*I wouldn't want to be Da Vinci. -Or, art is a subset of œuvres from a larger category (paintings, not all paintings are art, not all films are art and so on)… Then I'd like to be an artist, but who gets to decide who picks art from nonart ? -Either the "masses" get to pick (also known as : history will tell) but that approach has been invalidated by the "rediscovering" of marvelous artists, so the public's attention / success of something does not make it art. -Or the experts, and then who watches the watchmen and/or aren't they too clustered into trends and fashions to judge the value of something ? So what we defined as art was "something that gives you back the attention you lend". You give your attention to a painting, and it talks to you, it influences you, your behavior is changed, your culture affected. You spend time watching Citizen Kane, and you get something in return. Do everyone get it ? Probably not, but it has to have a certain Does it depend on who's watching ? No it can't, because that would mean that it's relativistic and then there is no rule, there is no "art / nonart". See the lil' conflict here ? :x So there : after that short foreword, I can say that most movies, most games and so-on, are not art. They are entertainment. Which, after enough repetition, we tire off of. When new and exciting games will come out, we might all learn things about ourselves we did not know, if, for once, a game was looking at you. http://the-witness.net/news/?p=438

My my my, thank you sir ! Back for the end some might say Onto the topic at hand, I'd add that you should watch the indie scene my dear Thunda peer, for your salvation will probably come from there. In the meantime, you'll probably have to go my favorite Lobster's way : sink hours in plant vs zombie and mediate on the meaning of life as a duel of living and growing creatures vs the tyranny of dead ideas and conservative thoughts embodied by zombies.

Well…*What I think is that you are not tired of video games, you're just tired of available video games. For me, and for a lot of folks out there, it seems, it would explain why we spend time on steam, on game news sites and watch trailers and reviews. Why ? Because we get the magic circle. You know, this loop of interaction : you act on the game, it acts on you, you act on it etc…*That is broken now. You might remember when you were young your parents telling you "you're doing nothing but watching those horrible games all day", not seeing that mechanically speaking, we were just overcoming obstacles. In the form of giant flesh monsters, certainly, but we were not watching, we were exerting the violence over the game, and as actors of the game, we didn't feel that it was violent. So circle : between you, the player, and the game. Now, the circle is broken, for me at least. I long lost my suspension of disbelief for the "you're the unique hero savior" bullcrap, and for a few years now, I have lost the other one : "you're the unique player with his unique experience and playthrough". So with the magic circle open, I can feel acted upon by the game and stimulate action just watching a video of the game. Yep, I did watch the entire play through of Uncharted 2 and it felt…*Well, exactly as fun as playing through Uncharted one. So no, we haven't lost our mojo I think, we're just obsessively watching video games news sites, waiting for a new experience, and a new set of useless skills to learn. The sad thing is, every game coming out nowdays that appeals to our eyes has the same ones : run, kill, dash, kill. With the new generation entering the market every year, there is no need of us anymore, so despite us having supported the industry for what…*10 ? 20 years ? Nobody gives a shit. Don't worry though, your brain's still hooked on "FUCK I GET IT, I'M AWESOME" moments, moments you used to get very often in new games, you just have to wait for new ones to come out !

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xet13z_mario-25th-anniversary-trailer_video games#hp-v-v7 Came across this video, yelling at my face "look how we made billions of dollars doing the same game over and over"…*Why do I feel so insulted by this video ?

You write like Lovecraft. Really ? Sweet ! In the sense that what you write is nigtmarish. Fuck you you damn machine !

Wizard 101 Names and friends number thingy exchange thread ! w00t !

If you come by Paris I'll show you some stuff if y'a want (sadly I can't shelter you :x)

This guy's not only nuts, he's wall nuts…*Sorry. 4keSOrR-e5s

Well…*I'm on it with you. But someone is bound to come and say "you don't have to if you don't want to…"

Habits… hard to get rid of them

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…and my brother and I did it again, persuaded that we were that the difficulty had increased and that another ending or slight variations that we tried to spot (and managed to alter our memory to spot quite a few) awaited us ahead. We lost our last life at the end of world 4 falling to our death and concluded "yep, it's really the hardcore mode"

Oh man, in the fake (but so real) script they talked about the wiz of oz too !!!

http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/107/1078533p1.html

Well, you point out the very reason why this world is a failure, inserting in it a backstory for anything is implying two things : 1) These things have a reason because it's a reasonable world which it is not supposed to be 2)Events imply similar things as in our world, Wonderland obeys rules very much like ours. 3) There is a past, meaning there is a present and a future. But there is not, there can simply not be, because no one in the world could come up with a viable narrative explanation for why for thousands of years those guys have been having tea, or where the tea comes from, or…*There is no explaining it and that is exactly why, when Alice comes, everything seems crazy, because just as in quantic physics, the observer must disturb the natural order of an event to see it. So, in a universe where chaos and craziness is to be found everywhere, you insert rules, behaviors, and a prophecy, which is plain stupid. Because there is not a single shred of mystery in the world anymore, it has very simple mechanics, it just works, and rather than be the agent of some more chaos she once was, Alice is just THE piece that comes here, makes everything right in a matter of minutes and then exits the world… Well done, you ruined it for everybody. Now on the theme of the movie : adulthood. Just like in Return to Oz (where, by the way, Jack Pumkinhead was invented and is probably the next adaptation of Burton) Alice is supposed to undergo pressure in her world which pulls her back to the fantastic world and make a journey there that makes her accept what is to be lived in dreams, and what the concessions that she has to make in the real world are. And, as you originally pointed out Rodi : In Alice it goes from "well, I don't know what to do" on to "I don't care, I'm a psychopathic social outcast because I'm different"

An advice that isn't worth a lot : don't think helicopters : you might loose some time trying to make one. Think 'a scrolling ball' that helped me quite a lot.