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Swatting feels like white bro gamers playing god with overviolent cops and someone's going to get killed, if they haven't already.

Some of my commissioned illustrations got posted up on the Toast: http://the-toast.net/2015/02/09/fictional-war-goddesses-think-make-no-particular-order/

Not in that way, but organized raids and hashtag bombing has been coming from 4chan and other places for a very long time. Operation Lollipop was specifically a group of MRAs and 4channers iirc, to make up feminist hashtags, etc. It eventually got uncovered with #yourslipisshowing and whatnot, and it predominantly focused on imitating feminists of color and eventually harassing them.

Yeah, that's basically what the blog post talks about - how there's a huge, vibrant Latin@ population in Houston and it's not just the stray migrant worker, but also that the white savior narrative fits conveniently in this all-white cast movie.

This has always been a problem, when GamerGate wasn't GamerGate yet, they were actively harassing women of all sorts on Twitter.

I don't want to clog up this thread with JP stuff, but thank you for the compliment. We're also reachable on Twitter or our email, or you can PM me But thank you! We were taken by that game a lot and we were super stoked that Adam managed to come on our show.

Yeah, that's also the feeling I got from the first episode I watched, which is sad because I think John Oliver does a much better job blending serious reporting and humor.

Dear Idle Thumbs forum, I am sorry I was mean earlier. I don't apologize for what I said because it was true but I was also underslept and had a really intense week doing shit for everyone else but now I have white wine

As as much as I hate sexism in the workplace, I also love being able to pay my rent. Welcome to being a feminist in late capitalism.

I basically exist as employee of X Company but I get paid through the temp agency. So I think I'd address it to my temp agency and they'd go through the appropriate channels. All I'd be doing is making a complaint though. There's only a handful of us here though in this department so it'd be pretty easy to figure out who complained.

We have a huge HR department here, but I am not sure if I'd talk to them or my temp agency. But I'm afraid I'd get pulled off my job, which I DO enjoy and everyone leaves me alone for the most part.

It's a steady drip drip drip drip drip of comments every single day. Every day. About anything.

It's a regional department store chain corporation, we're not Microsoft, but we're also not tiny (there's 800 people in this building). Those comments slide because everyone laughs at them, I don't. *shrugs* I'm just a contract hire here. But the department subsection I am involved in has a weekly meeting, 25 women, 7 men. What helps is probably because a lot of women make the same comments but I notice not everyone laughs comfortably. I know it shouldn't fly, but it does. And because it's so casual? It is just "the culture." (RE: Detracting from my comment, this is not something in the workplace, it's other men just in general. And informal poll on twitter shows it happens to other women too, re: specifically bitch and female dog jokes.)

I am not misinterpreting. I am merely stating that despite the setup, this is the kind of rejoinder that happens often when I mention bitch being applied to women. And it's tiring. I'm not really a wolf, I know that I use literally as an intensifier, sexism is real, I hate my supervisor calling women bitches, and I don't find anything funny about it. It's been more than one occasion that a guy detracts from me commenting on being called a bitch with a joke about how female dogs are called bitches too. I am also kinda tired of my perception of something not being accurate either? I got the joke, what I'm saying is that it is repetitive and not funny because being called a bitch is not a pleasant experience.

No, men can and do find a way to divert it into a dog joke, I promise you this. I have heard it. It's the easiest way to divert the conversation.

Biased Man is working on a show all about vaping, apparently.

There's quite a few people who read my Twitter only to add their really "helpful" comments - see the one guy who's takeaway from me posting pages was to mock the underlining, which was done on a bus.

Yes and that is a joke I have never heard before. Edit: okay, because I ranted about this elsewhere, I'm going to break this down. I know what you were getting at, and I know you didn't mean to be malicious, but this is what comes up every time I talk about someone calling me or other women bitches. It's a really tired joke and it detracts from how hurtful being called a bitch is. Yesterday, I had to sit through a meeting where two dudes out of a room of mostly women in my department made jokes about an inflatable Stay-Puft Man we have in our office was a "really good Valentine's Day date" because "she" doesn't talk back and also can be stuffed in a trunk. One of my coworkers even piped up, "More women should be like that." It's extremely unfun to sit in a corporate environment that is run by mostly women, staffed by mostly women but the men can still get away with that shit because sexism is just normalized. It makes me feel like shit.

TV is really just finding out about the "darknet" huh

Two notes from the podcast, I spoilered one because they elude to themes or scenes from FWWM, even if not explicitly. 1.) Leland's elation: 2.) Weird angle shots of Leland from above: Though probably a technical reason for including things in the shot, I wonder if it's somewhat akin to Leland's perspective, as if he's disassociating, but that's wild speculation on my part since it's literally never used in the show on a regular basis. The idea of "going somewhere else" when you disassociate also ignores other current theories of the Bob/Leland interaction but it is interesting if you refer back to the idea that Bob sometimes drives Leland's body around and Leland wants to be blind to his own innate evil.

I really like Mallory Ortberg, I did a drawing for her a couple weeks ago and she liked it so much that she contracted me to draw four more of them for an article she's writing.

Oh I absolutely agree. In that way, you get into that groove and I think the online space allows you more distance to not recognize that you're harming another human being - it is after all "JUST WORDS" but at the same time, a cognitively dissonant action that specifically intends for those words to hurt someone else.

I'm @applecidermage and I completely understand if people don't want to follow me on Twitter, mostly because I am a lot more sharp-tongued and ranty on Twitter than I am here. Expect maximum feminism.

Yeah, I can't really say enough good things about that book - aside from my harasser, I also dealt with a lot of abuse in my family and it really made me see it for what it is, same with former relationships. The intersection with Lundy's book and the troll problem is that it's hard to know who is who when they all use the same language, you know? I think a lot of people on the internet maybe aren't abusive in quite the same way as an intimate relationship but rather have a more superior feeling or wish they felt superior to the person they are harassing in question, just like Lindy's harasser. That's the problem, you just never know who is really doing it. My harasser appeared pretty "normal" before he spent 4 years of trying to message me every single day. Sometimes I wonder if that mask was hard to keep up or he literally COULD just waste that time pretty easily because the Internet allowed him to do so. Remember that Reddit post about the wife who found out her husband said shitty things to people online? I wonder how many people can keep up that kind of thing without actually being a sociopath, but rather that the Internet is this liminal space where people don't feel like other people are humans.

Yeah, he's a really good cat, though his meowing sometimes makes my teeth grind because repetitive noises freak me out. But other than that, he's been a real positive force in my life, same with my boyfriend. But needless to say, I have an incredibly in-depth awareness and understanding of what long-term harassment is and does and sadly, the GG playbook is eerily similar (like downright word for word) to my stalkers. It is almost like misogyny is an incredibly easy tent to assemble, but the level of similarity is actually kinda off-putting.