marblize

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  1. If you guys have any desire to eventually do another episode other than the Final Dossier I'd love to hear your thoughts on the season explicitly from the perspective of two guys in gamedev.  Between the lodge casino quest indicators, the final boss fight, thesearchforthezone/reddit detecting irl essentially being a text-based/critical analysis video game, and i feel like some other stuff i'm forgetting, it seems like a rich topic? Possibly one intentionally cultivated by Lynch to a certain extent? Would love to hear about whether Lynch has influenced your own work at all as well. Feel like y'all are obviously more qualified than any other peaks podcasters to talk about this, if it interests you. If it doesn't, nvm! I may be alone in feeling these vibes.

     

    (i assume you're not doing more episodes at the moment, just throwing it out there and lamenting that i didn't get this question in in time)

     

    :-( ALL.


  2. 2 hours ago, Digger said:

    Now I have tried to make it meaningful.  I have decided Dougie was Cooper's chance at happiness, and that by creating the tulpa he has given up a part of himself and allowed that part domestic bliss and no Blue Rose wackiness or giant evil entity insanity.  That Coop gets a happy ending.  I have very little in the show to back this up.  I don't know if new Dougie has much awareness of the world.  He said only one word, "Home."  Is he able to do and say more.  Dougie one was not a great husband, was that because he was made of the vices evil Coop was made of.  Don't know.  No explanation.  INformation deliberately withheld.  Disrespectful.  You'll never know, and I've not given you enough information to understand.

     

    Man, I literally don't see how you reach the concluding disappointment of this quote from the start of this quote. It's a really interesting interpretation that makes sense, that i have not seen, and that I have not thought of. It reads as fun and valuable exploratory curiosity but you spin it into begrudging empty digging. wtf!

     

    edit: wait, are you mocking others who came up with this theory or is this your theory?


  3. 4 hours ago, SuperBiasedMan said:

    I didn't have a specific picture of what evil Cooper could do, but rape as the go to is just something normalised by TV as a tropey way to show how horrible a villain is with little thought to their victims. Twin Peaks has been good about this in the past, and hopefully the finale will fare better than the rest of the season has thus far. It's not the worst, but it certainly has left something to be desired when compared to Fire Walk With Me.

     

    In my opinion nothing about this season's handling of rape has resembled "villain is bad" shorthand. It's one of the more in-depth depictions of long term trauma and psychological damage I've seen in recent memory, along with Big Little Lies. Maybe it's a bummer that it involved three beloved characters and maybe this isn't what you want twin peaks to be, but likening it to a cheap SVU narrative stab when that's not at all how it's functioning is absurd to me.


  4. 5 minutes ago, The Great Went said:

    Fair enough, I'm not really in a position to quantify degrees of problematicness. It's also not like the original run didn't already have a white lady dressed up as a fat asian guy with an outsized cartoon accent for like 7 episodes. And anyway, Fake Diane is probably just based on an Original Diane who is also Laura Dern but wearing a different wig. 

     

    I mean the Sheriff's Station line lends the theory a lot of credence. I just wonder, if she was a psychic projection given form, whether some incredibly crude signifiers of her actual identity might logically work their way in depending on who projected her, (though her actual form's whiteness would certainly take some 'splainin [essence of the David Lynch Blonde??])


  5. 30 minutes ago, Argobot said:

    - The reveal that Audrey was in a fake Roadhouse means that we know have to question the reality of every Roadhouse scene, right? That would explain why the website run by Matthew Lillard's character had an audio track of all the Roadhouse bands up to that point. It's all been in the Black Lodge (?) or some other place.

     

    This is fucking awesome.

     

    It's wild to me that a track title from the original run's official sountrack was verbalized, lol. Kind of means we have to question the reality of the whole s3 show-world, even if maybe not quite literally.


  6. 22 minutes ago, The Great Went said:

    I guess because we would have a white actor playing a character "derived" from a character played by an asian actor, and the highly stylized exoticizing treatment of traditional Eastern style/decor/fashion with regard to the white character is not just meant to indicate a personal interest in arcana of Asian culture, but meant to signify an underlying authentic Eastern identity.  I say problematic in the sense that it generates a lot of problems and red flags in the politics of representation, not necessarily in the sense that it is "wrong" or "bad." 

     

    Right, I just am not sure if having a character simply fetishize that stuff without it being commented on is necessarily less problematic, especially since we don't have the details yet.


  7. 5 hours ago, Nordelnob said:

    Perhaps the message took 5 minutes because Mr. C was out in the boonies, roaming and not near any cell towers?

     

    Well, if we're to believe the prop phones, she received it two hours and six minutes *before* he sent it. I considered timezones but if he's farther west he'd be behind her timewise, not ahead.

     

    Unless...

     

    Unless timezones are BACKWARDS :scary:


  8. Listening now and wanted to clarify before I forget - The text Diane received in episode 12 did only say "Las Vegas?" and with the same capitalization as Doppelcooper's sent text.

     

    The question of the fbi asking about vegas came from Diane's response: "THEY HAVEN'T ASKED YET."

     

    Minorly potentially notable though is that he sends the text at 9:34pm and she receives it at "19:28" so 7:28pm (according to their prop phones, lol).


  9. I think 'retcon' is being a bit overused when none of this stuff was all that pinned down in the first place. Maddy was always a bizarre and uncanny soap presence and I would not blink if I were told she was 'manufactured for a purpose'. (Aren't all characters? :) )

     

    I doubt the show will deal with her anymore so it's probably just a matter of headcanon.


  10. Three points about Truman undersharing with Cole:

     

    1. It's well-established that time is being presented somewhat nonlinearly and it's possible that the phone call happens before the sheriff's department has made the headway in the case we know they will/have. It's also possible that time in Twin Peaks alone is fucked up, so the phone call could literally be happening on different days for each party.

     

    2. Frank is unassertive to a fault and you joke about this with the miranda rights but we've seen him lazily withhold important information in the past as well (with his wife, regarding getting her dad's car fixed I think?).

     

    3. Even if everything is as it seems, I think the withholding is frustrating to such an obvious degree that it could serve as critique of prestige tv plot-blocking, as you guys alluded to but didn't reckon with as intentional beyond maintaining a particular internal rhythm/pace.

     

     

    Also, Monica Belluci's "Ancient Phrase" is apparently a loose translation from the Upanishads, and I think similar lines of fragments of these lines are said at some point in Inland Empire.


  11. 4 hours ago, Digger said:

    Yeah, I wish I could, but I would like resolution.  What happened to Annie?  What's going to happen with Dale?  Can Bob be vanquished?  I want answers to these questions, so I continue watching only to get strange back rubs and mediocre pie.

     

    The strange backrub directly answered a question of what's going to happen to Dale. He was in a situation where he could have died and he didn't as a result.


  12. 33 minutes ago, Digger said:

    "Starting position is more comfortable.  You made me uncomfortable when I was here and here.  See how this is uncomfortable.   Starting position."  Motion in any direction is arrested, rewound, rehashed.  

     

    You keep talking about this scene like it's merely the key to Lynch's big troll-game but there's so much more to it. It's the first time we've really seen Evil Cooper do anything post-Bob (because we've been busy seeing other storylines advance), and the way the match goes emphasizes his remaining strength and also how pain is just a deadpan game of tallying to him. It's a show largely about patterns of trauma and pain, and the scene speaks to exactly that (as well as serving as another loop like Sonny Jim's and Sarah's).

     

    As for the larger discussion I haven't left a single episode without being super intrigued by multiple developments. That along with what Lynch is doing with mood and tone make for a successful work so far imo. I'm not sure where else this discussion can go that's not you telling us we're being played and us/me telling you to watch with more patience, both of which are patronizing .


  13. 1 hour ago, Digger said:

    Lynch seems to do the same with his audience, never moving forward, overall the match is a useless and rigged exercise.    

     

    The Dougie, FBI, and Evil Cooper threads are all pretty explicitly moving forward. Evil Cooper and the FBI are pretty obviously working towards a goal while Dougie-Cooper is bumbling forward, amassing a following, attracting attention of increasing relevance. Sure, the Fusco's tossed the key to his identity in the trash, but I think that was just a nod to the fact that Dougie-Cooper is on a journey and there isn't a secret unlock code (yet).


  14. 2 hours ago, MalcolmLittle said:

    The best text on expectation and the eventual backlash against the new season was written before the premiere, by Vulture’s Matt Zoller Seitz. A very good piece.

     

    I also enjoyed this piece by Andrew Bujalski. It loses steam a bit toward the end maybe but the opening dream stuff especially resonated with me. The first time I binged original run twin peaks I had sleep paralysis nightmares of Lost Highway Robert Blake as a giant head staring at me and smiling.