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  1. Posted

    14 hours ago, SuoTempore said:

     

    I can't see this? Do you know at what exact time in the episode it happens?

     

     

    In that scene, right as trucker gets out of his seat and comes over.  

    Sarah gives a side glance.  It's a quick shot, and quite a normal shot... it registers as "old lady is uncomfortable that asshole is approaching."

    But despite it being such a normal shot (and quick, like 1 second), the smoke is trailing backwards.  It was filmed in reverse.

     

    MJD

     

  3. Posted

    3 hours ago, jrisk said:

    hopefully the green glove doesn't come off. they're gonna need it.

     

    Green Hand with crushing power.

    Audrey with the Red shoes.

    Gordon Cole Blue Rose...

    Yellow... there's gotta be some Yellow power I'm forgetting...

    And finally we have Sarah Palmer with inky Black void behind her face.  She's obviously willing to Form The Head.

     

    Twin Peaks Voltron finale.

  4. Posted

    1 hour ago, Arianna said:

    Nope. Leland literally describes how he first met BOB at his grandfather's house by Pearl Lakes (which is near Glastonbury Grove...) as a young child and how he let him inside himself. Without a major retcon this isn't possible.

     

    This is fun. :)

    Not possible?  Let's just step sideways slightly, and make it possible.

     

    Sarah infects Leland, probably when they copulate for the first time, and then, unawares, later...  

    Grandpa tries to molest young Leland in the bathroom of the Pearl Lakes house.

    Leland gathers the will to fight him off, and that assertion of power awakens Bob.

    Grandpa flees in shame (and with a bloody nose) as Leland looks over to the bathroom mirror...  and sees Bob.

    And in that moment, likes what he sees... and thus lets him in.

  5. Posted

    47 minutes ago, Arianna said:

    That'd be a pretty major retcon given that Leland says Bob first encountered him as a child

     

    So... in that old 1950s nuke movie we saw in Episode 8... maybe that other person, the boy walking with the girl, was Leland?  I don't remember enough to be sure.  And maybe he "encountered" him through his relationship with Child Sarah.  

     

    I'm down this rabbit hole and I don't think I'm coming out.   Sarah is the tragic "surrogate mother" of Bob.  And Laura is the even-more-tragic angel that is born into strife, as savior figures often are.

     

    By the end, BadCoop will encounter Sarah and call her "Mom" before their epic bossfight showdown.  Aw man, the gloves (and the faces) will come off for that fight!

     

  6. Posted

    50 minutes ago, jharp said:

    So, like, was the smoke-spewing finger inside Sarah Palmer's monster face thing a cock? 

     

    Because it looks like a cock. A thick meaty penis. 

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    That's the ring finger.  I'd imagine, rotted black from the "owl ring" at some point.

     

    Will it be revealed that, though Leland killed Laura, it was really Sarah that put her husband to the task, even if unwillingly?  Bob haunted Sarah after Laura's death, so Bob got into Leland through his own wife... Sarah always knew her family was doomed...

     

    Backwards-Thing Sighting:  just before Sarah's face-off with the trucker, there's a shot of her looking over at him... and the smoke was curling back down into her cigarette.

     

  9. Posted

    I am very happy to have had some scenes with Sarah Palmer.   And Hawk continues to bring an excess of warmth and humanity to every moment he's onscreen.  That mixed really, really well with Sarah.

     

    Just in case, like me, you didn't catch this in 2014, this clip is a must-watch.  It's not precisely a Season 3 preview (as the youtube link says), but it certainly plays like one.  Apologies if this is common knowledge:

     

     

    INTENSITY!

  10. Posted

    About all of the Roadhouse Randos.

     

    I think it is only:

    "Hey, here's what life for young people is in Twin Peaks... these are just little one-acts for you to enjoy."
     

    And then, maybe they are also cannon fodder. Since the whole story will converge on Twin Peaks by the end, do you suppose that Frost and Lynch are trying to put faces on a bunch of locals for a bloodbath finale?  I don't think they'll pay off in any other way.

     

  11. Posted

    38 minutes ago, BonusWavePilot said:


    The Audrey scene felt an awful lot like being trolled - to have such a barrage of unknown stuff to try to track, then have Audrey stand-in for us waiting to figure out what is going on at last through that drawn-out phone call to have her husband, and the scene, both stonewall...  (To be clear, I don't hate this, but I will admit to a spirited "oh fuck you!" which was half aimed at the character and half at uncle Dave himself.)
     

     

    Yes, this exactly.  Here's Audrey!  She's going to act in front of a fireplace!  And then... ooh, ooh, nope, you don't get to hear what was on the call.  It almost seemed like her husband actually promised the caller he wouldn't divulge any information.

     

    Now, for fun, do what my brain did:  get it in your head that "BILLY" is a nickname for "RICHARD."   And "billy/Richard" has been missing for two days.  And you can't satisfy me, so I fuck billy/Richard... my SON!

     

    It was only coming onto this forum this morning that it dawned on me that no... no... Billy is not a nickname for Richard.  But you know what, it sure did ground me in that scene... until she said she was fucking him... but then I thought, "Hey, Twin Peaks, sure!"

  12. Posted

    Good episode.  I am grading Twin Peaks on a Flynchian curve, of course.  These 18 hours could have been much better edited, even if they weren't pared down.  This episode is the first time the vignettes were actually "cut to the beat" and thus the hour felt whole and satisfying.  There's no reason every hour couldn't more or less cut this way, with footage and arcs slightly rearranged.

     

    Two random thoughts:

    • Is Diane just smoking, or is she also mouthing words under her breath?  Mantras, spells, that's what it looks like. Any lip readers?
    • I so, so wanted that piano player to be Badalamenti himself.  I looked him up and it's not.  Aw. 

     

  13. Posted

    On ‎7‎/‎20‎/‎2017 at 6:30 PM, Jutranjo said:

    There is some context to what he's doing.

     

    1. He's got a bad deal going with magic big time drug dealer

    2. He's killed a child, so he has to skip town, hoping to escape the police and the drug wizard

    3. He kills at least one more person

    4. He needs money fast, he goes to his grandmother. He probably knows they have a safe.

     

    The scene's still pretty much the same if you keep that in your head or not IMO.

    I think the problem everyone has is not a flaw in this logical progress, but there is no context for this horrible story within the larger narrative.  Aside from his last name, he has almost no connection to... anything. Remove all of his scenes, and the first ten hours of this movie change not-at-all. 

     

    I know everyone is pinning "trust Lynch" on that, but part of my aversion to this isolated shitty violent sub-story is... I don't trust him.  He's not infallible, and he's not immune to self-indulgence.  TP3 will definitely be a great net-positive TV experience, but I think we'll be looking back at the "Richard" thread as one of the weakest parts.  Calling it now.

  14. Posted

    On 7/20/2017 at 0:32 AM, Jake said:

    I agree on all points. I don't want him to be bad, and I don't think it fits with my understanding of who Albert is. I was most interested in it as something to put on the table to bust up the "it's definitely Diane" assumptions a little bit. 

     

    This Bad Albert idea gains more traction for me.... I'm recalling that private conversation with Gordon, when he flat out admitted he was up to some Jefferies-shenanigans (Gordon was so hurt!) On the other hand, he fessed up about it, which a Bad Albert might not have done.  I guess we'll see!

     

    MJD

  15. Posted

    2 hours ago, pokysharpy said:


    The possibility certainly exists that Diane is NOT working with BadCoop, which is at odds with most of the internet's immediate reaction.

     

    I think the Jefferies mediary is the more interesting choice, and not much of a reach.  Jefferies in Mexico?  Sure. Jefferies, what little we know about him, could be down there.  And he would care about the Site.  It's a fun mystery at this moment.

  16. Posted

    4 hours ago, chumm said:

    I do think Janey-E's consent is a bit more complicated based on how she started trying to get Coop into bed by saying "Do you find me attractive?  I find you attractive."  This was of course a ludicrous thing for a wife to ask a husband if they have any sort of sex life at all.  We've also had basically zero evidence that Janey-E loves Dougie, she spends all her onscreen time berating or dismissing him, and only seems to show affection for him when he's doing Coop things (disarming Ike, being hot).

     

    I get the strong suspicion you aren't married with children.  Janey-E has displayed tremendous love for this man.  She has expressed frustration and anger, but remember how protective she is.  How she aggressively stands up for him, and for their family.  Through it all, she regularly addresses their situation with "WE."  Togetherness. This is a woman who is very put-upon, but that married love runs deep and is fully on display.

     

    And that "do you find me attractive" conversation... again, not the least bit ludicrous.  Get married, have a kid or two, and slide into middle age as they grow into preteen years.  That conversation is foreplay, realistic and sweet and reconstructive.

     

    Dougie is weird, so is Janey-E, but their married life rings very true.

     

  17. Posted

    5 minutes ago, anderbubble said:

     

    I interpreted this as just one more way in which Janey-E just hasn't actually been seeing him. She's going through the motions, not paying too much attention, and this just happened to actually catch her attention this time.

     

    In some ways, she's both the counterpoint to, but on the same track as, Dougie. They're both disconnected. They're both in a haze. They're both going through the motions. But Dougie is stuck, incapable of action. Janey-E is stuck pressing onward, unable to look to either side.

     

    Okay, this tracks.  What other things have broken her out of the haze?  The casino winnings, and the attack on Ike the Spike.  But she slides right back in again.  But interesting, the sex stuck with her longer (the morning after she was still glowing).  So this may be a catalyst in the story?   It might not be a goof after all.  It wouldn't be the first time Weird Sex was an engine in a Lynch story.

     

  19. Posted

    12 minutes ago, anderbubble said:

    I don't want to quibble about the definition of rape here. That's turning into a distraction [edit: and I don't know that anyone's going to be satisfied with the argument in the context of a fictional, fantastical setting].

     

    What I'm thinking about, though, is the fact that Janey-E still hasn't given appropriate thought and consideration to the fact that Dougie has changed in every conceivable way, and is acting like he has suffered some kind of trauma. The doctor signing off on him mutes this concern at least a little bit; but she should know that something is wrong.

     

    If we can consider Dougie as he is as his own character for the moment, this scene makes me feel sad for him. Sad for the play-acting of intimacy that the sex scene represents. Sad that Janey-E's entire demeanor towards him has changed, partly due to having seen him without a shirt on, but she still isn't actually seeing him.

     

    He's still just Mr. Jackpots. Wandering around the casino, with everything going right for him, but no-one is actually taking the time to understand what he's going through.

     

    This is true.  As Dougie persists, we're starting to see that many people in his life feign frustration at his non-responsiveness, but really, they expect it.  They have, actually, built their lives around it. Want it, even.  In a long marriage, even inconveniences become familiar and comforting. 

     

    But let's talk CoopBod for a second: J-E's reaction is baffling, in the fiction.  Dougie can hardly move on his own.  He's led around.  Are Frost and Lynch really suggesting that Janey-E hasn't seen him in the shower, or had to help him get dressed?  How is it she hasn't seen him naked every day, just administratively?  That... that doesn't track.

     

  20. Posted

    20 minutes ago, Marius said:

    I also felt uncomfortable seeing the sex scene. I can see how it it a light hearted, funny scene for people, and I don't judge them for how they view it.

    But I must say that I find it unsettling that the topic of rape causes eye-rolling, because we live in a time where rape culture is a thing and where victims constantly have to face people that don't take them seriously or blame them. It is a real thing, and I think it's important to talk about concerns of popular media that has a huge audience.

    Again, I completely understand how people can enjoy that scene, and I truly believe that they are level headed and understand the awfulness of sexism, rape culture and all, but I find it wrong to eyeroll at people who have honest problems with this scene.

     

    To be clear: The topic of rape does not induce eye-rolling. I'm with ya there.

    But, the scene is not rape, so what I'm rolling my eyes at are those who are overprescribing the term where it doesn't belong.

     

    We have two people depicted in a pleasant act, and meanwhile there are a bunch of overintellectuals almost literally next to the bed with charts and diagrams screaming "Problematic!  It doesn't matter if you're both enjoying it!  It doesn't matter that you have a long-standing marriage! There are forms to fill out!  Notarizations!  Did you wait 10 minutes after eating?  Cramps!"

     

    Fricking life is problematic.

    Lynch is problematic, too.  

    That's what makes him interesting.

    But this scene?

     

    Nah.

     

     

     

  21. Posted

    7 hours ago, SuperBiasedMan said:

    I'm not going to argue that it definitely is rape because we don't really know DougieCoop's internal world for sure yet. But I will say that all it needs to be rape is a lack of consent. Being married, in love or male don't preclude someone from being raped. A man who loves his wife can still be raped by her if she does not have his consent.

     

    In the barest logic, I understand what everyone is saying, but I can't help but roll my eyes that people are shuddering an monocle-clutching so earnestly about "consent" in a scene obviously played as a goof, and was one of the lighthearted events in a rather violent and unpleasant episode.

  22. Posted

    4 hours ago, Owl said:

    That said, the worst thing about the episode was the Cooper and Janey E scene. Cooper is obviously not capable of consenting at this point, and Janey E knows he's not in his right mind even compared to however actual Dougie behaved, so this was rape. If the same scene was played with the genders swapped, it would have been treated seriously as rape, but since Cooper is a man it was played for laughs and the gravity of it flies over peoples' heads. 

     

    I know we're all even-handed Thumbs fans on this forum, but I must critique this one.  Not rape.

     

    • First thing: with rape you cannot, cannot pull the blanket role-reversal straw-man argument.  It does not pan out.  The politics and power structure of sex are simply not reversible - to attempt to do so paves over a lot more problems than it tries to "fix."  This lighthearted and loving interlude works because they are woman and man in their particular, irreversible roles.  Yes, if you reverse it, it would be perverse.  You can't.
    • Point number two: They're Married.  That hardly covers all icky scenarios (TP itself has its share of bad marriage examples), but it certainly knocks down quite a few icky scenarios.  You don't know their sex life -- this fugue state is not new, and may well be how they roll.  You cannot be so quick to judge from outside.
    • And third, and here's the capper: There is obvious love here.  Love. Between these characters. Not rape. Love.

    In a world as fucked as the one we live in now, why are you looking so hard for more to be outraged by?

     

  24. Posted

    NUMBER TALK LUNACY TIME!

     

    I didn't like 10, so I'll talk about ep. 3 instead. I have been rewatching the latest season (recommended).

     

    Okay! Numbers!

    So Coop is sucked out of an electrical outlet which originally had a 15 above it, but then 3. Everyone seems to be saying 15 and 3.... that's 315, his old room number!   Well almost, I guess. 

     

    But 15 and 3 are also the same number, on a clock.

     

    The plug was ready to suck him back into his federal government job (which might be inclined to use military time!).  That would have swapped Coop with BadCoop as planned.  But instead he was led away by eyeless woman, who flipped an electrical switch in space.  When he returned to the plug it was 3... which is 3pm to civilians, like Dougie.  

     

    So the eyeless woman was working for BadCoop (maybe against her will), and helped redirect Coop to where BadCoop wanted him to go!

     

    That tracks.

     

  25. Posted

    Bandwagon jump: I didn't like this one.

     

    It had its moments, but this was almost "get some potatoes" level of unnecessary.

     

    Characters are being dragged around by lore, instead of likely motivations.  The plot is piloting the characters.  For the FBI, that's fine, since that's literally their job.

     

    But why isn't the TP sheriff's office in full Law-&-Order-mode on The Nameless Kid That Got Run Over, instead of fucking around with mystical Lodge Lore?  Because plot!  And instead, that character runs about and piles up more violence, making TNKTGRO even more exploitive and meaningless.