ThunderPeel2001

Pre-ordering online is coolio, but pre-ordering in a shop (where you actually put money down(!!)) is dumbland: They have all kinds of special offers when things are first released, you may find a better deal elsewhere! Never, ever, put money down! So says I.

Hehe! Brings back memories! Thankfully they also allow Memory Card (PS2) as I recall. Have you worked for Sony or are you just incredibly observant, Spaff?

Why not get him something educational like... JFK: Reloaded? Oh wait, that's PC only, damn. How about Prince of Persia 2 or something like Tony Hawks or SSX?

Not sure what that flying toilet is all about... ? Rage Against The Machine: Wake Up!

I think it's a different case were Valve is suing Vivendi Universal. Valve seem to have won, preventing VUG from selling "their" game in Cyber-Cafes. I had never even heard of that before, though. Maybe someone can elaborate. I don't think this has anything to do with the STEAM thing...

Next time I'll make sure I put "This Section Is Off-Topic" in bold just so you're not confused. Yes, I think everyone is this thread has already agreed on that. Why you're telling me I have no idea.

I agree. The enjoyment though, if there is any, comes from a) Pulling off a precise assassination -- NOT neccessarily of Kennedy (as I seriously doubt anybody who buys this game is old enough to actually "hate" him for any reason). A simple assassination a la [/i] Silent Scope, Counter Strike etc. and Having a piece of history modelling in 3D space to see for yourself what actually happened. Of course, if was the intended point of the "game" (and not just a cash-in) they simply could have just allowed people to see what actually happened on November 22nd 1963, which to me, would have been much more interesting. Again, I completely agree. Of course nobody (sane) doubts what happened on 9/11. JFK's assassination is unique in its mystery that still fascinates millions of people (myself included). For anyone who is actually interested in the truth, here's what most likely happened: Firstly, just about everything in the movie JFK was bullshit, sadly (it was a most excellent film aside from that!). Secondly, a man called Dale Myers spent something like 7 years of his life remodelling the entire senario in 3D in an attempt to find out exactly what happened. To do this he looked at all the home-films that captured what happened, blueprints of the buildings and still photographs and modelled EXACTLY what happened. Every movement, turn, wave, twist of the body, every second. When it was all precisely modelled it was very easy to see that the "magic bullet" in JFK was bullshit! This is what they claim: But Dale Myer's video conclusively proved that given the placement of the seats (JFK was raised higher than Connaly) and their relative positions at the time of the second gunshot, that the wounds are VERY consistent! If you'd like to know more keep an eye out for ABC's documentary "JFK: Beyond Conspiracy". It pretty much debunks every myth you've ever heard about JFK's death. Dale Myer's site: http://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/intro.htm Excellent site: http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/home.htm The Flaws in "JFK": http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/jfkmovie.htm

Hmmm... When exactly have I defended this game? - "Just to re-iterate incase I'm not coming across clearly; JFK Reloaded is definitely expoitation!" - "It's offensive, it's exploitative" - "the only possible redeeming fact surrounding this game is the "mystery" of JFK's death. Not much to hide behind, really." - "It is of VERY little value in terms of gameplay" Why on earth you think I want to make my $9.99 purchase justified to bunch of strangers on a game forum is beyond me! I quite happily spent money on this "game" so I could make my own mind up. If you're interested in what I think of it you should read some of my earlier posts. Huh? Here's what YOU said about this game: - "Me, I'm totally "meh" over the outrage of the whole thing. I mean it's fine to simulate wars in video games and kill thousands of virtual people, so I guess this isn't a whole lot different" Here's what I said about WW2 based FPS's: - "This is definitely murky waters, but it's no different that the "ultra realistic" WW2 and Vietnam first-person shooters out there." - "they're exploiting the deaths of millions of people. But for the sake of entertainment we all turn a blind eye (myself included)" - "let's not pretend that it's not satisfying to go on a killing rampage in Call of Duty and GTA" When have I ever shown "outrage"? It seems like we were both making the same point... or have you forgotten what you wrote? I'm off to play Call Of Duty! (Maybe I'll squeeze in a few goes of JFK Reloaded along the way, too!)

Tips for game. Top of page. Written by me.

Oh, do sod off. I actually think this is an interesting topic of discussion and it's nice to be able to discuss it outside reactionary media. There's been games like Soldier Of Fortune where you were awarded points for killing Iraqi civilians in the most brutal and explicit way the technology would allow at the time. The programmers of JFK: Reloaded have just taken a common trait of computer games a single step further, a step that was most likely inevitable. If this step was so clearly in bad taste then it makes you wonder what separates it from games like GTA where you can (must I say it?) have sex with prostitutes and then kill them to get your money back. Just as GTA hides behind "hey, it's not real, y'know" and CoD hides behind "hey, this is historically correct, y'know", both are really just games that allow you to go around killing people. We all know that, so let's not pretend that it's not satisfying to go on a killing rampage in both, ok? The only difference between taking a sniper-rifle to someone's head in Half Life 2 and taking a sniper-rifle to Kennedy's head in JFK: Reloaded is the abreiviation "JFK" in the title. Is it just the fact that we're now "killing" a recent, well liked, historical figure the problem (instead of unknown people in Vietnam)? Anyways, the only possible redeeming fact surrounding this game is the "mystery" of JFK's death (and that's already been exploited to hell and back in every other medium). Not much to hide behind, really. Whether you like it or not, I am confused! Question: Who has actually played it?

The flip side is that if it was Hitler, would it still be offensive? If it was Ceasar, would it still be offensive? If it was Alexander the Great, and you had to beat him in sword fight, culminating in his beheading... would it still be offensive? How are any of the above any different? Also: Why is taking someone's "fake" life in a game not as bad as taking someone's "real" life? Surely if this "game" was called "Kill The Fascist Dictator" or even, can you imagine, "Kill Osama bin Laden", then everyone would go whoop-de-doo over it? It's offensive, it's exploitative, it's of slight educational value (this is how it actually happened, kiddies) but there's a lot of other games that fall under the same banner... I'm confused.

That's an interesting point, Walter, it's a murky situation. I'm not sure there's a clear-cut answer. Anyhow, if anyone is going for the $100,000 prize, here's some tips for you I've thrown together! Good luck! PS - Can anyone get anti-aliasing to work?

Don't get me wrong: Using names would be wrong, I definitely agree! But in games like "Call Of Duty" where you get "meaningful" quotes about the "seriousness" of war in between each level does very little to hide the fact (from me at least) that they're exploiting the deaths of millions of people. But for the sake of entertainment we all turn a blind eye (myself included) because quite simply, there's little point in pretending we even want to know how horrible their experiences were! To the guy who mentioned something about how games like "CoD" and "MoH" keep the memories alive of the hardships soldiers had to endure... Gimme a break! The "bad guys" get killed with one shot, you have an energy bar. You can restore yourself to full health by picking up a "medi-kit". You can save and restart from scratch and most importantly of all: You don't lose anyone you actually care about nor do you run the risk of actually dying! No game can ever do justice to the memories or experiences of War veterans because in reality war isn't fun! And a game with no fun isn't a game!

Of course it's more honorable to mention those who actually died... however it's still deplorable! Would it not be better to an invent an entire senario from scratch? Would it not be better NOT to use real-life wars and battles for fun? Of course it would! Which makes we wonder about such games and the people who play them (us) -- hence my point. Edit: Ah, I see you got my point. Never mind

Hmmm. The fact that the people who fought and died in the Wars that we merrily re-enact aren't mention is a good thing? What can perverse history more and do more dishonour to the memories of those killed, than to reduce a thousand of people's deaths to a bunch of NPC's in a level in a computer game? One death is a travesty, a thousand is statistic? Just because we don't see the name and rank of the tons of NPC's killed in the Omaha Landings level of Medal of Honour makes it ok? I find both this, and the JFK game, similar, personally. We exploit the deaths of millions of 'ordinary' people in order to turn them into exciting "historical" levels in games like Medal of Honour, Battlefield Vietnam and Call of Duty. In fact, the more "realistic" and fact-based the better! JFK's death is arguably different that most in that every second from 12:30PM onwards of November 22nd 1963 has been hotly contested to such a degree that anyone can have an opinion on what happened. The JFK game, while a thinly disguised peice of exploitation, does at least allow people who have an interest in the assassination, to fully appreciate the work of Dale Meyers (the man who first figured out how to take all the footage and photographs from that day and place them in a 3D model, proving once and for all that JFK WAS killed from bullets from the Book Depository building: http://www.jfkfiles.com/jfk/html/concl.htm ). IMHO: The JFK game is interesting in a historical way (perhaps moreso than CoD, B:V and MoH are...?) as the hotly contested events can be witnessed by all, for once and for all. I would have much preferred a "Historical Option" so you could watch the actual events of the day from any angle, like Dale Meyer's conclusive animation showed, instead of the, ahem, "game" they've created, but it's still interesting. For those who haven't play it: The idea of the "game" (but let's face it, it's not really a game, that's just something they've tacked on) is to assassinate JFK. You blindly shoot him whenever you feel like it, but you'll get higher "points" if you manage to emulate Lee Harvey Oswald closely. In reality it's just a repeating senario where you can point and click at things and see what happens. It is of VERY little value in terms of gameplay, but is interesting to anyone who has wondered what actually happened during that fateful day. I find it a less disturbing than those REALLY sick games that allow you to "re-enact" the Dunblane massacre etc. Edit: Just to re-iterate incase I'm not coming across clearly; JFK Reloaded is definitely expoitation!

Huh? That doesn't make any sense. What type of format of movie or TV series could someone be shown as being a "winner" for shooting Kennedy? The only way that could possibly be conveyed is if it was an "anti-Kennedy" piece, which tried to show (somehow, I don't know how) that he deserved to be assassinated. (In fact there was an episode of Red Dwarf where that precise message was put across, oddly enough. In that particular episode (which was far from being great) Kennedy shot himself from the graddy knoll to spare the world from the tyrant he would become in later years.) The truth is: There's already a massive amount of "pro-Lee Harvey Oswald" stuff out there, constantly being repeated on the History Channel or whatever, claiming conspiracy for our enjoyment. The movie "JFK" did a great job of selling the conspiracy theory to us, and we gobbled it up, despite the pain it caused the Kennedys, who had long since come to terms with their bereavement, on top of the fact that it's been shown, beyond almost all shadow of a doubt, that Lee Harvey Oswald was the killer. No other medium can possibly convey what you're talking about. This is definitely murky waters, but it's no different that the "ultra realistic" WW2 and Vietnam first-person shooters out there. Re-enact with painful precision the horrors of the Omaha Beach landings or the nightmares of the Vietnamese jungle for your enjoyment. It doesn't sound that different to me.

Yes. People are stupid.

The recent mention of the Amiga classic Wizkid has led me to revisit this game write a new FAQ for it (seeing how there's not a walkthrough anywhere on the web for this superb game). Here it is for you all. Enjoy it. Or not. It's up to you! Wizkid.zip

Sure. So long as they use the latest version from GameFAQS and don't change one iota of the file, no problem!

Anyone remember Gloom? It was a great Doom clone on the Amiga. Here's a link: http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,19/gameId,12252/ One of the best games for the Amiga 1200 I reckon!

Another great Amiga game, sort of a more arcadely version of Indy 500 and incredibly fast (hence the name). Anyone else remember this barely known game? http://www.mobygames.com/game/sheet/p,19/gameId,13119/

Yup. That's probably why their desperately trying to reinvent themselves (however poorly they're doing it) by trying new things and (nnnnnnng!) canning adventure games barely months from completion.

The game I didn't mind not being able to skip the cutscenes was Final Fantasy VII (can't explain why), but most of the time (if they're not important and not done well) they're quite annoying. Although I agree with you Thrik re: MGS -- I used to play it on my lunch break when I games tested and I'd get a little way through and a massive conversation or something would occur and I'd be forced to turn it off before it ended and thus losing what I did so far - argh! (Still, great game when you have the time! )

No.

Quote of the moment: Ever heard of Max Clifford? Guess what he's the man who planted all those stories about the original GTA in the press... "It teaches kids how to steal cars", "It's the most violent video game ever..." (etc) What was Max Clifford doing? Why, being paid to publicize GTA by the publishers of course! Duh! Someone needs to clue this guy in.