toblix

My sentiments exactly!

So I can just get Wind Waker and shove it up my Wii, right?

Hey, I'm just saying I think that 2D graphics looks better than most 3D graphics, at least any 3D graphics the DS can produce. It's not like I am surprised at the quality of the graphics. I know that the hardware isn't that great. I'm also saying that I think the Phantom Hourglass shots looks like crap. I know that: I may not think so when I see it in motion on my little DS screen. For most people, the graphics will either:Be beautiful Do the job It's just that I'm more into graphics than the lot of you. I'm not saying you're not able to appreciate good graphics, or that I have better "taste" or anything. I just have a bit of hate in my heart for 90s 3D graphics, and that I weigh that more when evaulating whether some game that hasn't been released yet seems good. I fully expect the dungeons to be every bit as ingenious as before, I just know that they'll look less interesting to me. So, as I said, I hope they use the 3D in a way that weighs up for the loss of (what I consider) eyecandy, and, as I also said, based on the trailer, it doesn't seem like that's going to be the case. But all of this is just the crazy opinions of a graphics whore.

What is it about all Estern European games? Why do they all share the same... feeling of rubbishness? It's like they're all using the same art guys and same not especially good programmers. They always have these really bad user interfaces and nothing is polished. Nothing. I just installed Stalker, but I'm so fucking tired of these half-assed pieces of shit, I uninstalled it the moment it crashed, which it did almost at once. Even Oracle of fucking Ages has more layers of polish than Stalker. Anyway, at least this wasn't a post about Stalker being fun and then suddenly terribly difficult.

I don't see it. Do you mean design-wise or technically?

So, I'm trying to pick up this again, since the last episode just came out. I'm still stuck though. The only progress I made was I guess I'll use that later somehow. So, there's the three locations, right? Sybil's, Bosco's and the office? I've searched them all, but I don't even know where to begin. Is the game not giving enough direction here, or is it just me? Have I missed some essential thing, like a new location or something lying in the street, like that spray can in the first game? To start with, where am I supposed to be?

Seriously? Wonderful? I mean, that graphics looks like something from a 90s PC-game.

I didn't see the Phantom Hourglass video link at first, only the Wind Waker one. WW looked nice though, but not fun. Yeah, although from my experience I've always felt that 2d games convey tons more atmosphere than their inevitable 3d sequels. I prefer Broken Sword 1 & 2 over 3 & 4, Worms 1 & 2 & World Party over 3D, 2D Lemmings over Lemmings 3D, etc. Of course, all those games were not only 3D sequels, they were inferior games even not considering the graphics, so maybe my brain has been tricked by playing too many shitty sequels.I think maybe I have an abnormally low tolerance for 3D graphics, though. For example, when I saw that Phantom Hourglass video I thought: The top-down stuff would've looked better in 2D. The 3D sailing stuff looked shit. The 3D Zelda, with the 8x8 pixel face texture, has to be a fucking joke. So maybe I'm not being fair, and I'm letting my fetish for 2D graphics cloud my judgement. I completely understand why using 3D is cool, and all the cool stuff you can do with it. I know that people have loved the 3D Zeldas, and that Ocarina is considered to be totally awesome and that they're great games. It's just that I think they look shit, and they look boring. The reason I like the 2D Zeldas is the puzzle aspect of it. I could do with no bosses at all and more mazes and more carts and more levers and more wands that flip shit over. What I've experienced of the 3D Zeldaverse is Ocarina, which as you know, looked so much like shit to me that I could not play it, and that Wind Waker movie, which looked like Prince of Persia Xtreme with a green cap on. I feel that the 3D stuff is enabling all that shit I don't like about Zelda (or any other games), the sword fighting and the traveling around some vast, uninteresting landscape. Sure, I completely understand. And who knows, maybe I fall in love with the new 3D/2D Zelda. God knows I'll at least buy it and have a go. Maybe a new dimension of fun will open up to me.But even writing that last sentence hurts so much! It's like I'm everyone else is crazy: Don't they see Minish Cap? Don't they see Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time? Are they imaginary games? How can anyone who has seen those games not continue making games that look exactly like them? They are so... beautiful! Maybe, since I have no god, 2D graphics has taken His place in my soul or something.

Yeah, I know. I just think it's sad that games have to look uglier than they did before. I mean, it's not like making a pretty and fantastic 2D Zelda is impossible. They've done it like a million times. I guess they wouldn't "get away" with making more 2D Zeldas. I guess I'm thinking that the net gain from going 3D will, for me, be far smaller than the net loss of not having wonderful 2D graphics.

I'm not saying that, I'm saying that why in the fuck would anyone use 3d to "simulate" 2d? The graphics in Minish is ten times prettier than anything Phantom Hourglass can present. There better be a really good reason for using 3D instead of 2D for a top down perspective, and I seriously doubt there is one. And I know it's a matter of taste. I'm sure most people think the 3d in Wind Waker is prettier, so I'll stop complaining right... now.Also, the italic setting is busted. If I try writing separate words in italic, the cursor jumps to the end of the first italic word. Now to look at that Four Swords. I thought that was just some multiplayer thingie... Okay, one more:

The second dungeon, too, was also awesome as well! It's like I'm afraid to play the game any more, because I know it'll be the last of its kind. Even Phantom Hourglass will have shitty 3d 2d. Fuck that. Hand-made 2s is where it's at, with smooth pixely animations. I'm starting to cry over here.

Hah, I'm already stuck. After completing the first dungeon I don't know where to go. All the interesting places are blocked by carpenters, holes or guards. Am I supposed to dick more around in town, or what? Figured it out. So now I'm trying to get up to the hot spring. Jeez, you people said this was easy! Maybe there's something I've missed by skipping all the sucky 3D Zeldas.

What? They had that one in Broken Sword 4. No, wait. There was something with pushing paper under a door. Was there a woman? Never mind.

Fuck all of you for berating Minish Cap! Anyway, I'm glad to hear it's easy. I'm more a fan of the puzzle-element and the light fighting, and resorted to cheating to beat some of the bosses in Oracle. I've played some more, and have beaten the first dungeon. Everything is so... wonderful about this game. Wow. I was kind of disappointed about not being able to throw bombs, though.

I thought Boyle was the director, and thought it was pretty strange that he'd done this and Sunshine at the same time. But that means it's not strange, because he didn't.

Yeah, Minish Cap was pretty good. I never finished it, because I was playing a borrowed copy from a friend. But I got about 3/4 of the way through, and I enjoyed it. I really liked how they gave all these weird items like "Thing that flips over things upside down" instead of the more traditional Zelda items. Yeah, I'm really looking forward to the new items. The items in Oracle and Seasons were essentially the same, but when I got the jar of whatever the fuck in the first dungeon instead of a feather, I was like... ((((((( )))))))Awesome!((((((()))))))

What? They told you not to do something and then scalded you when you didn't?

Hey, the reason I only post about stuff that annoys me is that if I like a game I'd rather spend my time playing that game than posting about it on some stupid forum.

They should all be shot!

So, I haven't heard a single mention of this on these forums, but I guess everyone's listening, right?

I'm listening to them at work, and they're pretty fun. It's obvious they're not trying to make it so that the set of people who consider themselves regular listeners is equal to the set of people who exist, though, with their in-jokes and back-references and whatnot. Still, I enjoy listening to people talk about games in an informed way.

You tell me... Hitler.

I can imaging a thousand forum geeks frantically photoshopping away at the next animated mashup. Or I could, if this wasn't such a lazy forum. Anyway, those were great.

Apparently the goat was delivered back to the butcher after the event. They probably ate it. Filthy Greeks.

Really? I thought it was just for, you know...SCUMM games. And BaSS.