Twig Posted December 1, 2014 Aw yiss I'm on there too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bjorn Posted December 1, 2014 Ha, I'm on it as well, with my crazy 41 followers and 189 tweets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Problem Machine Posted December 1, 2014 I love how the icon for that is them blocking out someone who's already trying to ignore them. If that doesn't say it all... Also, high fives! I'm on the list too! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BusbyBerkeley Posted December 1, 2014 Hah, I'm on that list too. Good thing they don't get to see my fire tweets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gormongous Posted December 1, 2014 How do you find out you're on the list? I went to the site and it's split into about 100 pages. EDIT: Found out to go through github, yep on the list as expected. I don't really get the point of their list. The first anti-gg list was to block harassment, but now they want to block anti-anti-gg people because why? It's like, 'You can't ignore me! It is me who is ignoring you!' According to the Twitter account, it's to stop the bullying and harassment that happens when social justice warriors butt into your conversation and start judging everyone. According to sundry comments by the creator, it's to make liberal progressives look like idiots by doing to them what they did to #GamerGate and then watching them complain. Either way, it's free-speech maximalism that believes the proper response to internet "censorship" is to censor the "censors." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brodie Posted December 1, 2014 i'm in there too. yay! imagine a world where they go find a corner and keep to themselves, blocking any who attempt contact, slowly getting crazier and crazier. then, one day you are knocked out at the wheel of your time machine and wake up in the distant future...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Problem Machine Posted December 1, 2014 According to sundry comments by the creator, it's to make liberal progressives look like idiots by doing to them what they did to #GamerGate and then watching them complain. Ahaha I'm sure the complaints will start rolling in aaaaany minute now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
feelthedarkness Posted December 1, 2014 Though in theory they're the ones with the "complaints" so how are they going address their complaints when they've blocked any of the people they need to complain to? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bjorn Posted December 1, 2014 A gger did a several thousand person demographic survey of KiA, many of the results can be seen here. Obviously it's an opt-in survey, so take with a grain of salt, but the results of it are that KiA is 90 percent male and 70 percent white. Amusingly, this was an international survey, and there were plenty of international respondents, and yet the creator still made this graph: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tabacco Posted December 1, 2014 Aw man I'm not on the list. You guys, I might be a gamergater. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Problem Machine Posted December 1, 2014 I knew there was a reason I saved Carly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bjorn Posted December 1, 2014 Actually, it's about ethics in video game journalism. Haha, geddit, because Carly is a journalist in a video game. Ha. Haha. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Merus Posted December 2, 2014 I knew there was a reason I saved Carly well done Doug, you can get on the list by following more of Gamergate's victims! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SecretAsianMan Posted December 2, 2014 Doug, you can get on the list by following more of Gamergate's victims! Probably by being a victim as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nachimir Posted December 2, 2014 I'm on the list too, but that's no surprise as I've engaged with and detracted from GG quite a lot. I tried one last time the other day with an alt account, and the tone has definitely shifted. They're really obviously True Believers now, and think their cause is so righteous that it excuses abuse, or somehow means it's not actually abuse if they're the ones doing it. Several gaters piled on to me, kept jumping topics and avoiding giving any answers while continually demanding proof of anything I said. In response I posted four links in a row showing documented abuses and lies committed by GG, and it prompted them to suddenly switch to becoming incredibly verbally abusive, with several immediately resorting to copying the hashtag back in to try and instigate a pile on (not just an interpretation of their words; it was a specific exhortation from them). What really stood out to me was that, a few tweets before that, they'd been talking about "GG is against abuse". I'd concluded a while ago it was useless to engage, but that confirmed it for me. I saw these tweets this morning: Make a joke at their expense, they'll "be deeply wounded" and take it up with "your leaders" right away. Same with insults. Stray comments.. Really this kind of is a much simpler point than I realized when I started typing. Do not, under any circumstances, talk to any GGer about.. anything ever. The reasonable ones left, so it does more harm than good 10 times out of 10. Flat out, period, don't do it. Tell others what- they're saying, sure. Reports, directly pointing it out to their immediate or upcoming targets, absolutely. Don't engage'em though, please. and I hope I didn't make anything worse for anyone. What she says is spot on though: engagement from non-targets doesn't distract or sway them, it fuels them to go after their targets harder. Amusingly, this was an international survey, and there were plenty of international respondents, and yet the creator still made this graph:image-14.png Actually put my palm on my face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twig Posted December 2, 2014 Today, that shitty webcomic artist ShreddedMoose, who made some comics where Zoe Quinn gives him a blowjob, among other things, expressed joy at making GG comics and said he wished it was his job. Then Brad Wardell, of Stardock, made a public invitation for the guy to submit his resume. When Zoe called him out on it, Brad proceeded to call her a liar and then use semantics against her in an attempt to deflect criticism. A++++++++++++++ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JonCole Posted December 2, 2014 Today, that shitty webcomic artist ShreddedMoose, who made some comics where Zoe Quinn gives him a blowjob, among other things, expressed joy at making GG comics and said he wished it was his job. Then Brad Wardell, of Stardock, made a public invitation for the guy to submit his resume. When Zoe called him out on it, Brad proceeded to call her a liar and then use semantics against her in an attempt to deflect criticism. A++++++++++++++ The most preposterous thing is that he asserts that him, as the CEO of Stardock, telling a person to send in a resume on Twitter isn't a job offer. Now, I'm not saying he's culpable for the past of every person who submits a resume to his company, but when he publicly tells someone to apply who is scum he should at least own up to it if not apologize. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CollegeBaby Posted December 2, 2014 Awkward. Brad Wardell is also president of Soren Johnson's new games studio. :/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twig Posted December 2, 2014 Oh wow really. Ugh that's awful. He has a history of unapologetic sexual harassment at Stardock, which, under normal circumstances, I wouldn't hold against someone years later, assuming (probably out of naiveté) they might've grown. But given today's shit, we obviously know that's not true. I guess it's good for the employees of Soren's company that none of them are female. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bjorn Posted December 2, 2014 Jesus, what a mess to even figure out, it's all scattered around multiple timelines. Jim Sterling and John from RPS seem to have commented on it as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thefncrow Posted December 2, 2014 Just for clarification, the tweet encouraging that webcomics artist to apply happened like a month ago. That discussion kinda came back up this morning, which was when Wardell was trying to claim that Zoe was "still" lying about him. Even then, though, the offer was made after those horrible comics were released, so "he didn't know about those" isn't a defense here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BusbyBerkeley Posted December 2, 2014 Awkward. Brad Wardell is also president of Soren Johnson's new games studio. :/ Holy heck that's a huge bummer. Definitely not buying anything from them, even though Soren is rad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dewar Posted December 2, 2014 *sigh* I used to like Stardock so much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Brodie Posted December 2, 2014 *sigh* I used to like Stardock so much. I played Fallen Enchantress and liked it for a while. Looks like it will be the last purchase from Stardock. Gross. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites