barichnikov Posted November 12, 2012 I'm guessing this was discussed already, but it made me chuckle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tundra Posted November 12, 2012 GTAV, Like Skyrim but bigger, less bugs, no magic crap (sic). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darthbator Posted November 12, 2012 Fallout is skyrim with guns!!! It even has the same crap feeling gameplay, lack of ladders, and breadth of bugs! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
youmeyou Posted November 12, 2012 Is that a real quote from Machinima? That is some prescient goofing from Idle Thumbs's early few podcasts. "Fallout: Oblivion with guns" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nappi Posted November 12, 2012 That was in the trailer as well. The fact that they chose a quote in which their game is just compared to another game keeps blowing my mind (Machinima.com). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frenetic Pony Posted November 13, 2012 Skyrim is Skyrim with Skyrim! - Skyrim Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darthbator Posted November 13, 2012 I keep thinking about shooting dragons with a bolt action rifle.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
berniesbc Posted November 13, 2012 Wow. It never occurred to me that there are no ladders in Bethesda's games. My mind is blown. I understand that perhaps all the world's ladders might have been destroyed by nuclear war, but surely the people of Skyrim must have developed ladder technology by now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darthbator Posted November 13, 2012 http://kotaku.com/5613374/hey-+-why-arent-there-any-ladders-in-fallout .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orv Posted November 13, 2012 I keep thinking about shooting dragons with a bolt action rifle.... So how about... http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/26653/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TychoCelchuuu Posted November 13, 2012 There are a few ladders in the games but they're just "doors" that lead to a loading screen and then bring you up or down a level. Some towers in Oblivion and some sewers in Fallout have them for instance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orv Posted November 13, 2012 What would you rather have? Actual ladders or the shit that passed for ladders in early games that was just weirdly sloped boards that you could walk up? You know the right answer here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
elmuerte Posted November 13, 2012 or the ladders you still see in games which are more like some kind of weird open elevator that goes up when you press forward Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
youmeyou Posted November 13, 2012 Are there any examples of good ladders in games? That aren't slanted boards or 'press W to ladder?' Also, playing Black Mesa reminded me how much I hate ladders in video games. Especially in that fucking Blast fucking pit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TychoCelchuuu Posted November 13, 2012 What is a "good" ladder? Deus Ex: Human Revolution handled ladders fairly well, I think, as did the Splinter Cell games and lots of other games where you're not always moving at 80 MPH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThunderPeel2001 Posted November 13, 2012 I can't wait for the inevitable "It's Skyrim with ladders!" quote. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darthbator Posted November 13, 2012 Are ladders even worth dividing into good and bad? Either you understand how to convey motion well to the player or you don't. I think it's easier for third person games to do ladders then it is for first person games. You have that additional element of character animation. Hey guys check out how aptly I derailed this post. We're totally having a conversation about ladders I can't wait for the inevitable "It's Skyrim with ladders!" quote. ahahahhaa Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
youmeyou Posted November 13, 2012 When I think of 'bad' ladders it's always in the realm of FPS games. So maybe it's just the dynamic of your character magnetically sticking to a ladder shaped object and gliding up and down that irks me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
youmeyou Posted November 13, 2012 hahahahha awesome, barichnikov. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lu Posted November 13, 2012 This was a pretty memorable ladder for me, as they totally got me with that one. Jerks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
youmeyou Posted November 13, 2012 Wow, almost forgot about Mirror's Edge. The ladders were pretty decent in that game. Except when you missed them. ARGH. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TurboPubx-16 Posted November 13, 2012 The first time I played this I actually thought it went forever. I climbed all the way down when I was probably 90% to the top. I am so glad ladders aren't in games anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gormongous Posted November 13, 2012 This was a pretty memorable ladder for me, as they totally got me with that one. Jerks. They put it in the demo, though! Actually, the FEAR demo was a pretty strange beast. Like Half-Life: Uplink, it was a stitched-together but narratively coherent sample of the game that didn't fit into the actual continuity. I kinda miss demos like that, though not for horror games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThunderPeel2001 Posted November 17, 2012 Best ladder ever is in Metal Gear Solid 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
