Nox Beta Posted July 30, 2015 MVP.phoenix are truly living up to their wildcard origins. First they 2-0 iG, then they take a game off Secret (might have been 2 if they didn't lose 2 teamfights right before mid rax went down). They can take games off of anyone. It seems like they've settled into a groove, playing to their own beat. They're really proving themselves and shouldn't be underestimated P.S. MVP.kpii aussie hope represent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dewar Posted July 30, 2015 I bought an MVP Phoenix pennant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henroid Posted July 31, 2015 So there's detailed results of the group stage through Team Liquid's website. http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/The_International/2015 Below is the win/tie/loss counts of 2-match series, and the points each team earned. Group A 1. LGD Gaming 5-2-0 17p2. Team Secret 4-3-0 15p3. compLexity Gaming 4-1-2 13p4. Cloud9 3-1-3 10p5. MVP Phoenix 1-3-3 6p6. Invictus Gaming 1-3-3 6p7. Fnatic 0-4-3 4p8. Natus Vincere Natus Vincere 0-3-4 3p Group B 1. Evil Geniuses 3-4-0 13p2. CDEC Gaming 4-1-2 13p3. EHOME 2-5-0 11p4. Team Empire 2-3-2 9p5. Virtus.pro 2-3-2 9p6. Vici Gaming 1-4-2 7p7. Newbee 0-6-1 6p8. MVP HOT6ix 0-2-5 2p So uh, there's no nice way to say it but Na'Vi, MVP Hot6, and Fnatic played terribly. Newbee, the defending champs, performed mostly with ties throughout the last few days. Cloud 9 frustratingly had a tie-like record as far as raw wins and losses goes. A lot of people are saying it's gonna be Team Secret vs. LGD in the late stage of TI5 but the way the brackets are set up it's impossible for them to be in the final match. Kinda hoping to see Secret pull out ahead. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jutranjo Posted July 31, 2015 It's a double elimination bracket, any team can play any team in the finals regardless of brackets. 1st round has Secret play EHome, that could easily be the final if they both go undefeated except to each other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gavku Posted July 31, 2015 Rad I didn't think there were any aussies in there. Will have to follow their games as well now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dewar Posted July 31, 2015 Some interesting teams in the top bracket that I hadn't heard of before this week. CDEC, EHOME, and Complexity all looked really good in the couple of games that I caught. I hope either MVP Phoenix or Newbee storm back from the looser's bracket and make the final round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sclpls Posted July 31, 2015 Complexity was new to me as well, and a pleasant surprise. EHOME is a DOTA team with some history though! They played against Na'Vi in the finals for the first TI. My big criticism of the Free to Play movie is that the narrative framed EHOME as the villains that the good guys had to beat. They were treated as this impersonal juggernaut team. The non-Chinese teams all had coverage of players like Dendi and Fear humanizing them and assigning them personal narratives. I think that was a big disservice to all the Chinese DOTA fans as well as playing into some lazy xenophobic tropes. CDEC is a relatively new team having formed in October, but they are definitely impressive. I've been enjoying the clips Valve has been releasing covering the players for the various teams. I've been told by friends of mine that follow professional LoL that the player bios there tend to emphasize how much of a rockstar the players have become since becoming LoL pros. If true, interesting contrast with these DOTA videos where the themes hit are on how much the players have sacrificed to be at TI and their relationships with their families. Almost definitely a reflection of how these games play on our identities. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twig Posted July 31, 2015 Complexity is the worst because they have MoonMeander who is a bad person. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jutranjo Posted July 31, 2015 Complexity is the worst because they have MoonMeander who is a bad person. Yeah, I agree. Complexity's gonna bomb as well. If they win 2 more games in all their future series I'll be impressed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henroid Posted July 31, 2015 In the DOTATV chat most people seemed to praise Team Secret as the possible winners this year, though people are down on RTZ a lot. Which is weird because that guy was making a TON of plays to win matches. The other breakout player is Sumail. That kid is amazing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twig Posted July 31, 2015 Arteezy is a very good player but he's also been an enormous ass in the past. Not too surprising to me. His attitude invites criticism. He's like the anti-Dendi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jutranjo Posted August 1, 2015 Arteezy is a very good player but he's also been an enormous ass in the past. Not too surprising to me. His attitude invites criticism. He's like the anti-Dendi. Yeah but he was 15-16 years old in the past. He seems a lot more chill nowadays. Moonmeander's the guy who's praising HoN's flaming pub voice chat in an interview and how it actually makes him a better player for getting into shouting matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twig Posted August 1, 2015 Yeah people can change. I agree he's more chill! But the internet, beast that it is, never forgets. MM defo deserves all the heat he gets. Well, "deserves" is a strong word. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henroid Posted August 1, 2015 The thing with people acting like a jackass in their past and remembering it is that it's all a matter of what perspective. IF someone does turn around for the better but people keep bringing up the past, the failure is on the observers, not the person who improved. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Twig Posted August 1, 2015 Yes I was only explaining why he was getting heat, not justifying it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
osmosisch Posted August 1, 2015 Pretend I posted artreezy-underwear-selfie.jpg here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jennegatron Posted August 1, 2015 The Fear Underwear Selfie is the one that's actually horrifying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reyturner Posted August 2, 2015 I'm still still predicting an EG v Secret Grand Final, primarily because I know nothing about Chinese Dota. I should check out those profile videos mentioned above. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jutranjo Posted August 2, 2015 I'm still still predicting an EG v Secret Grand Final, primarily because I know nothing about Chinese Dota. I should check out those profile videos mentioned above. If we ignore that Secret's gonna win, Top 3 spots will have Secret/EG and a Chinese team. Unless EG chokes hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henroid Posted August 2, 2015 LGD is definitely, at minimum, making the top 3. As much as I hate to say it. EG's chances of winning seem to be based on whether or not they can pull out some new strategy that not everyone resorts to and doesn't know how to counter. Secret seems most versatile. By the way the compendium is updated to allow us to make predictions on the main event. I'm confident on all my number based predictions but the character based ones I don't know. Aside from most deaths. That's totally going to Dazzle. Picked most I'm thinking QoP. Banned most... Undying? Edit - Going with Lesh for most banned and getting the most kills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reyturner Posted August 3, 2015 If we ignore that Secret's gonna win, Top 3 spots will have Secret/EG and a Chinese team. Unless EG chokes hard.I'm actually predicting coL winning the best of 1 and EG coming up out of the lower bracket for the Grand Finals When are the new predictions locked in? I'm not able to update until tomorrow night. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Henroid Posted August 3, 2015 As of right now, an hour and a half after your post Reyturner, 1d 13h 36m. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dewar Posted August 3, 2015 That's really annoying. I checked on Sunday, but apparently not late enough? Now I'm probably going to miss it. Edit: Hmm, I'm actually looking forward to all the looser bracket matches more than the winners bracket for the day. I guess maybe I'll watch the best of threes, then shut off the stream at work so I can watch them in all their glory at home. Edit2: Wow, they are really doing it up for the opening ceremonies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
undermind9 Posted August 3, 2015 ...it starts Im watching on twitch at work, anyone else watching (today or the rest of the week) and place for IT only commentary - the twitch chat is a series of heads and racist comments **in twitch ive got an Idle Thumbs group chat - idk if worth sending invites Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dewar Posted August 3, 2015 Twitch is blocked for me here, so I'm either on the Dota Watch page (which seems to get through even though it's based on Twitch) or Youtube. Most chat clients are blocked here as well. I have Thursday and Friday off though, so any sort of chat during those days I'm all for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites