SecretAsianMan Posted July 27, 2015 Looks like the cringelord who did the Crash Bandicoot 2 run last night had his twitch channel shut down. I caught the tail end of it last night and he very much sounded like The Guy in the Convention Reg Line You Regret Starting a Conversation With. So many lame channer-esque jokes about suicide, domestic abuse, and mass murder. It was on as I was going to bed and I just had to turn it off. It was so awful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patrick R Posted July 27, 2015 I've been watching this on an off in between work and I guess I'm just #blessed, because I haven't seen any gross behavior yet. The worst I saw was that one of the commentators made a weird "over-protective/abusive boyfriend" joke about Nemesis during RE3 and the runner was clearly uncomfortable and tried to walk it all the way back, and ended up saying a few earnest (if a bit awkward) things about how terrible abusive relationships are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meat Mecha Posted July 27, 2015 I've been watching off and on too and I'm really enjoying it so far. Personally, I love that there is a community devoted to getting faster and faster at old, sometimes forgotten games. It doesn't make me feel old, but rather excited about the direction video games will take in the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Architecture Posted July 27, 2015 Maybe I missed out on a bunch of what they were saying, but I only remember the occasional complaint about how terrible it is to have to escort her through half the game. I enjoyed the RE4 run, and due to some restlessness, listened to most of the Silent Hill 2 run as I was trying to fall asleep, and that sounded good. I'm really looking forward to the Tetris Grand Masters block tonight, especially with the news that a couple of Japanese players are there. There was a moment where the RE4 speedrunner said something like, "yeah, Ashley's overweight--her hitbox is really big." It seemed a little inappropriate to me for a public livestream for charity. Turned it off pretty shortly after that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SecretAsianMan Posted July 28, 2015 Not used to using twitch, but do they not archive any more? I'd like to see some of the stuff already run. I think the standard answer is that it'll all be archived on YouTube, if not also individually highlighted on Twitch. A bunch of them are already up on various channels such as this one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SecretAsianMan Posted July 28, 2015 Also I'm digging that the top name for a bunch of character/file name bid wars is Iwata, even the non-Nintendo games. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Danielle Posted July 28, 2015 I'm having a lot of fun watching these (I usually do! This stuff is like candy for me) - but there have been a few weird moments. That Crash Bandicoot 2 guy was really awkward and... the mass murder jokes were seriously awful. But I feel kind of bad for the guy - I just kept thinking "this kid probably needs help" The Silent Hill 2 run was also awesome, though the twitch chat was unfathomably bad, since it was a young woman running the game. Lots of nasty sexist stuff. I think the mods got some semblance of control, but it was rough for awhile there. Stuff like this sucks, because it's otherwise a really positive, awesome event. A bunch of passionate people are showing just how well they know and love - and can completely break - oft-beloved games, and the whole charity angle gives it some warm fuzzies. I'd just love it if maybe they could vet some of the runners a bit better, and maybe not allow anonymous chat... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bjorn Posted July 28, 2015 I've never actually watched one of these live. Tuned it in today some at work (mostly listening) and then the lady and I watched almost all of the Tetris stuff tonight. It's a lot of fun! More fun than I actually expected, even with all the good things y'all have had to say about it before. Makes me feel a bit sheepish for not checking it out before. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smart Jason Posted July 28, 2015 From SecretAsianMan's link: Due the bad rections on Crash Bandicoot 2: Cortex Strikes SGDQ 2015 speedrun it will be temporary set to "private". I hope you all understand why this is done (most viewers that saw the video understand why). Enjoy the rest of the video's Slept through this one. Anyone want to elaborate on what happened here? I saw you tweeting during the Silent Hill 2 stream, Danielle. During any event on Twitch with a wide audience, I just close the chat tab; doesn't matter if it's GDQ, a Nintendo Treehouse, whatever, the chat is going to gross and toxic. Having said that, I don't know if actual data will prove me wrong, but I feel like we're getting more women on the couch this year than ever before and way more female runners than ever before, between Silent Hill and the co-op Octodad run from earlier today. In my entire time watching GDQs, I think I can only recall two different female players from separate events in the past. (Note that SanGillepsie, the Silent Hill 2 runner, only stepped up because the original (male) runner couldn't make it.) But if this is true, great trend. Just have to continue hiding the Twitch chat. (I acknowlege that it is not fair that we live in a world in which this is the unspoken status quo.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rohlfinator Posted July 28, 2015 Apart from the occasional out-of-place jokes (and the Twitch chat which is just constant garbage), I really enjoy the vibe of these. There's a great sense of camaraderie in the community -- even the runners that are competing for world-record times seem to still collaborate on strategies with their peers. It's one of the few big gaming events that's free of the AAA hype machines, pandering "gamer" stereotypes, Doritos/Mountain Dew, etc. It's just all about the fans and the games. And it's seriously impressive that they can pull off a full week of nearly non-stop streaming with so few hitches. Highlights for me so far have been the Yoshi's Island run by Trihex and the Super Monkey Ball run by Geoff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Architecture Posted July 28, 2015 I really appreciate the runners' talents, but I hate the vernacular which has sprung up around the speed running scene. Even an enthusiastic, positive guy like Trihex says things that just grate on me. I'm probably just old and crotchety though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Architecture Posted July 28, 2015 Also Danielle--did you watch the DKC block? There were some insane moments during the DKC any% race that blew my mind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SecretAsianMan Posted July 28, 2015 From SecretAsianMan's link: Slept through this one. Anyone want to elaborate on what happened It was filled with a lot of really unfortunate jokes and comments about suicide and a few other inappropriate topics. The particular strategy for that game utilizes lots of death abuse so it didn't come from nowhere, but still it was awkward to say the least. I'm not familiar with the runner so I don't know what he's normally like, but I got the impression he felt pressure to talk and no one really wanted to tell him to stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Architecture Posted July 29, 2015 They're currently running through Ori and the Blind Forest and one of the dudes in the couch crew worked on the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SecretAsianMan Posted July 29, 2015 I've seen devs on Skype calls before but not physically there. That's kind of neat. The incentive for I wanna be the Boshy got met. Looking forward to that. I need to donate again toward Bionic Commando 2 100% Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dinosaursssssss Posted July 29, 2015 They're currently running through Ori and the Blind Forest and one of the dudes in the couch crew worked on the game. That run has been one of my favs so far, and I stayed up until close to 3 by accident to finish it. Having the developers on hand to say "oh...yeah that's a bug" was cool, and I thought it was interesting that the runner actually died a bunch of times since I feel like all the other deaths I've seen while watching sgdq have been intentional. Also at the end the developers revealed a cheat code in the game that no one had seen before (it changes Ori's color) which was really rad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Badfinger Posted July 29, 2015 Really excited to hear the Ori run was well received, because it's one of the games I was most interested in seeing. I have not had time to watch basically anything. :[ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mangela Lansbury Posted July 29, 2015 That run has been one of my favs so far, and I stayed up until close to 3 by accident to finish it. Having the developers on hand to say "oh...yeah that's a bug" was cool, and I thought it was interesting that the runner actually died a bunch of times since I feel like all the other deaths I've seen while watching sgdq have been intentional. Also at the end the developers revealed a cheat code in the game that no one had seen before (it changes Ori's color) which was really rad. This was all very cool. Plus, they kept the inside baseball to a minimum, talked to the developer about actual development issues (where the dev actually said something like, "I've been wanting to fix this highly technical bug, would that effect speedrunning or am I in the clear?"), and were generally just decent and entertaining people throughout! A+, would make myself exhausted today again. I watched some Metroid game for a while yesterday, but their constant use of the term "ghetto jump" made me uncomfortable so I went to do something else instead. I hate it when something I'm interested in uses such thoughtless language and makes me not want to like it anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smart Jason Posted July 29, 2015 I watched some Metroid game for a while yesterday, but their constant use of the term "ghetto jump" made me uncomfortable so I went to do something else instead. I hate it when something I'm interested in uses such thoughtless language and makes me not want to like it anymore. I caught that too. It was the only time I've been around at my computer so far this week but had the stream muted. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben X Posted July 29, 2015 Apparently it's a specifically Metroid-related term for that technique of looking down before you jump off a ledge to reach further areas than usual? I couldn't find an explanation for why it's called that, but it seems like it's a community-wide thing rather than just those streamers. Do you find it offensive purely for the trivialisation of the word ghetto? I was expecting to find out they were making "black people jump like this" jokes... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mangela Lansbury Posted July 29, 2015 Yeah, it's just the trivialization of the word. The same reason I don't like hearing people say they "ghetto rigged" this thing they have. One of those pet peeves that's hard to explain without sounding like a picky little snootlord, so I just don't like it. At least the runner himself, when the term was introduced, said "I don't even know why we use this term" in a way that sounded like he was saying "I don't like this/it is bad/I am uncomfortable with it" or something like that, but the guy with him who was explaining everything had no such qualms. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Korax Posted July 29, 2015 Swordless Legend of Zelda run tonight! One that I'm going to miss because it's my tabletop game night! Blargh! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Smart Jason Posted July 29, 2015 Yeah, it's just the trivialization of the word. The same reason I don't like hearing people say they "ghetto rigged" this thing they have. One of those pet peeves that's hard to explain without sounding like a picky little snootlord, so I just don't like it. I don't think there's anything pedantic about it. Even if you don't want to get into the full history of the word, having people use it casually just perpetuates an implicit modern association between poor quality and black Americans/black American lifestyle. It's a word that people should immediately realize has gross connotations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SecretAsianMan Posted July 30, 2015 A bunch of the names for tricks in the speedrunning community have some unfortunate nomenclature. Most of the time the move is named for either the inventor or more likely it's just the first thing someone said and the name stuck. It's most likely what happened with the ghetto jump and while it's a poor choice of words, I don't think there's any malicious intent behind it. Not that it's a good excuse or anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bjorn Posted July 30, 2015 Yeah, it's just the trivialization of the word. The same reason I don't like hearing people say they "ghetto rigged" this thing they have. One of those pet peeves that's hard to explain without sounding like a picky little snootlord, so I just don't like it. I have never heard the phrase "ghetto rigged" before, but I can imagine how that evolved, since people still used the far, far, far more racist version of that when I was a kid. I'm sure that that was probably my introduction to the n-word without even having any understanding of what that word really meant. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
