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They have previously sold Zelda Oracle of Ages/Seasons, Smash Bros 4 Wii U and DS, and Super Luigi U. I don't think it'd be unprecedented even if you're excluding Pokémon.

 

sure, but in those cases they are very different games. Ages/Seasons are two completely different adventures, Luigi U is also an expansion pack to the original, and Smash Bros 4 is on two different consoles. None of them are the same game but with minor differences like Pokemon.

 

The new FE game was sold to me on the stream as one game where you can choose two different paths. To then split that game into two games is just confusing, and to top it off, it was even mentioned that one route is more challenging than the other. And what if I get to the choice where I have to decide and I'm forced down the route with the characters I don't like because of the version I bought? On top of which, for the non-clued in consumer, it'll be a confusing choice, that'll more likely just put them off than anything else.

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The Fire Emblem split doesn't happen until six chapters into the game and they didn't mention the multiple boxed copies thing at all in the NA video. I expect that the campaign you don't choose will just be DLC in the NA version.

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Oh I misunderstood, I thought it was like choosing a side in a conflict and entirely playing from that perspective for your whole game.

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Thing is, the new Fire Emblem sold gangbusters. In North America, it's likely sold more than 400k units, and in Japan it sold over 450k units. No numbers have been released about it since September 2013 either, and the tail implied on it through what sales data we have shows that it didn't seem to be falling off. None of this is counting europe either, so it easily could've beat out 1m units, or a good 20m for Nintendo. Nor does it count DLC, blah blah blah

 

I think as we get closer to the date, people will mind less. For one, they're not playing off the DLC like it's gonna be $40 again, so I could see it being like another $5-15(depending on if it's just a little different or a lot different). And again for the 3rd campaign.

 

Personally, I'm excited for this one because it isn't a last-ditch effort like the last- Awakening is in my top 10 games of all time despite being my first Fire Emblem, it's significantly impacted me to the point that if I ever get around to making a game, it's almost certainly going to have extremely heavy influences from it. This is them saying, "Oh, hey, you really like this- then lets show you what Fire Emblem is really about.", with the enhanced animations(similar to how great they were in the GBA games), noticeably amazing music, etc.

 

I might be overhyping though, the trailer has me over the moon.

 

The tail might have been long and numbers might have been much higher than that in the end, but 400k isn't gangbusters. There were 11 million 3DS's sold in NA back in September 2013, so that's less than a 5% adoption rate. I'd like to hope that the budget behind Fire Emblem was such that 400k could be profitable, but we live in the age where Tomb Raider can sell 2 million and be seen as a failure.

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It's worth remembering that most Nintendo games have a much longer tail than most other games, which is why games get taken off the shelves in the first place.

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Also keep in mind that Fire Emblem was generally considered the first good game on the 3DS. It came out way back when nobody was buying the damn thing and people were convinced it was the new Virtual Boy. There's a much, much larger audience for this new one.

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Also keep in mind that Fire Emblem was generally considered the first good game on the 3DS. It came out way back when nobody was buying the damn thing and people were convinced it was the new Virtual Boy. There's a much, much larger audience for this new one.

 

Wait, is that true? I remember feeling like the 3DS already had a good bit of momentum before FEA came out. I should go look up a timeline of releases.

 

I definitely don't know how i feel about the campaign splitting on the new one though. FEA had tons of DLC, but it was kind of all off to the side, it was clearly delineated as additional content on top of an already fairly enormous game. What they're doing with this new one feels much more manipulative. I also don't think FE has the kind of fanbase that can support two retail releases, so at the very least, i don't expect that will happen outside of Japan.

 

Also, FExSMT is super weird to me. It doesn't really feel like either of those things, it lacks SMT's apocalyptic tone and FE's fantasy tropes. Instead, it looks like Persona. (With, i guess, FE characters as the summons?) I've watched that trailer a few times now though, and i come away a little more confused each time. They certainly have my attention, i guess. It is not at all what i was expecting that crossover to be, and i'm super curious to see how it pans out.

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PEGI seems to have let slip Minecraft Wii U ahead of this evening. Never played Minecraft but the gamepad seems like a great fit. Could be good.

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