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  2. Posted

    Reposting without spoiler markings and with slightly more coherent presentation of info.

    On the surface, it's the horror movie ending.

    Mother yanked Laura away after Dale intercepted her in the past. She probably put Laura far, far away in a new life so that Dale couldn't use her against the Mother. Mother gamed this all out so that Dale couldn't find her -- the Chalfonts being owners of Laura's house is a clue there.
     

    Laura was the golden orb sent by the Giant to stop Mother. In the old past, Laura was dead. In this future, Coop can find Judy/Mother and use Laura to stop her. Mother escaped, but Coop now has the gun to kill her with (Laura). It's a worse surface level ending than before, but there is SOME HOPE that Coop can find and stop Mother now. Before, there was none.
     

    On the surface, dire. In the details, actually a more hopeful future than we had.

     

  4. Posted

    Spoiler

     

    On the surface, it's the horror movie ending. Mother yanked Laura away after Dale intercepted her in the past. She probably put Laura far, far away in a new life so that Dale couldn't use her against the Mother. Mother gamed this all out so that Dale couldn't find her.
     

    Coop can find Judy/Mother and use Laura to stop her. In the old past, Laura was dead. She was the golden orb sent by the Giant to stop Mother. In this future, Mother escaped, but Coop now has the gun to kill her with (Laura). It's a worse surface level ending than before, but there is SOME HOPE that Coop can find and stop Mother now.
     

    On the surface, dire, in the details, actually a more hopeful future than we had.

     

     

  6. Posted

    Hutch is refered to as her husband in that scene, yes. I just started the season over. Even having watched a lot of the episodes two and three times, I'm still making connections I'd missed. 

     

    One thing occurred to me, and I don't think it's likely, but Dougie's backstory is that he was in a car accident and is a bit slow. That's almost exactly what we think and know about James. What if James never returned to Twin Peaks and is just an off, Tulpa-fied version of James! Oh no!

     

    Again, I don't think so, but the similarity made me laugh. 

  14. Posted

    Showtime is getting a taste of the Netflix streaming model. One show boosting their sub numbers that much is noteworthy. Les Moonves was beaming about it in their investor call.

     

    That the president of Showtime is saying, basically, he's open to whatever Lynch wants to do, is really the best case scenario. If Lynch has more great things to say with Twin Peaks, awesome. If he'd rather tell us a different story with different characters, fine. If he thinks he has nothing noteworthy to make right now and opts out, perfect.

     

    As a fan of Lynch, the Showtime boss' willingness to do whatever Lynch thinks best is a good thing. Even if that means Lynch doesn't want to do anything.

  16. Posted

    Good Coop:

    • Shot in episode eight of the original run. 
    • The bullet pushed the parasitic wood tick on his belly into his abdomen.
    • Doc Hayward removes the parasite from inside him with the bullet fragment.

     

    Bad Coop:

    • Shot in episode eight of the new series.
    • Bob, a parasitic orb, is inside him.
    • The woodsmen remove the parasite inside him, Bob.


    Parallels to the new series aside, it's clever that Coop was portrayed as being invaded by a parasite as early as episode eight of the OG series. It didn't seem like a meaningful thing at the time and I'd largely forgotten that happened.

  19. Posted

    2 minutes ago, Aaron M said:

    My favorite thing about reactions to this episode is the split between people seeing it as "Mark Frost mythology bullshit" and "David Lynch art-film bullshit".

    I think that's what I like about it -- it's a total exposition dump from Frost told through the visual language of Lynch. It feels wholly collaborative. That people can see it either way is a victory IMO.

  20. Posted

    That's the push pull of dream-like Lynch and cosmic-horror Frost. I tend to not like when things are spelled out, like I said above, but I felt like this episode rode the line pretty well as collaborations go!

     

    What's funny is that most the people I see decrying it on other forums and Reddit and what have ya, are the ones that want more, literal mythos. And they just got it. And don't realize it apparently. Shrug!

  21. Posted

    It seemed way less abstract to me and more like a big, Frost exposition dump, which, again, the merit of is debatable. It depends on how dreamlike-Lynch vs. how cosmichorror-Frost your wants from Twin Peaks skew.

    As someone that typically LOVES the Lynchian side of things and tolerates the Frost-mythos, I was surprised to really dig this. I think Lynch is a bit heavy with some of the imagery, but it's just batshit enough to not have gone too far in either direction for me.

  22. Posted

    1 minute ago, MechaTofuPirate said:

     

    Everyone said it was either too weird or nothing happened in it

    It laid bare most the bones for the entire mythology of Twin Peaks. It's debatable whether or not that's a good thing, but SO MUCH happened.

     

    Edit: Shout out to Gordon's office having garmonbozia and the bomb hung up -- I think he knows a lot more than has been let on in regards to his Blue Rose cases.

  24. Posted

    Penderecki's threnody (the atomic bomb) begat, or ripped a hole for, the dark mother entering our world. We recently saw her trapped in the cube eating the couch couple and I am guessing that was the creature depicted here.

    The dark mother puked up Bob in spirit. Bob manifested here in the form of a cicada frog. The woodsmen, also unleashed by a rift, or born from the aftermath, of the a-bomb, conditioned hosts for the Bob-frog via their radio message. Bob-frog climbed into, or rode, his first host (the way one might, say, ride a horse as mentioned in the woodsman's words), the girl on the bed.

    The giant is the opposite of the dark mother and birthed goodness, in the form of Laura, to thwart Bob/the dark mother spirit thing that the bomb unleashed.


    I don't think it's happenstance that technology is the means of Bob's first host's conditioning.

    The woodsmen are asking for fire, the first human technology -- "Got a light?" They manipulate, and travel via, our electronics. That fits with all the themes of electricity, static, distortion, the light pole, etc. We doomed ourselves.

    That's my guess. It's a bit literal.